Proto Ultima (patch 3.55a)

[Dzian]

Doesn't surprise me at all. The game has been getting easier and easier for a long time. Because accessibility is there number 1 priority.

Rather than make content that raises the bottom line of the skill level and promotes player improvemennt. All they do is lower the top level bringing it closer and closer to players.

Which is why everything even expert dungeons have been getting easier and easier for a long time

[Nabudis92]

..Okay? Just because someone wants to "raise the bottom line" doesnt mean its possible. Most people are just as good as they are gonna be, and you can't imbue another person with the drive to be better, you either have that or you don't, badgering people into quitting with overly grindy (relic chain) or meaningless overtuned (savage) content doesn't improve the health of a community, it just galvanizes the player base into people who quit because they hit a wall, and people who spend all day believing they are being held back.

If you believe you are too good for the average difficulty of content, you beat the curve, be happy with that, its easier than blaming a bunch of strangers that you think just havn't been sufficiently abused into getting good.

[kensatsu]

Dungeon be more and more easy ? i remember ampdaport was easy like the new ones.
I think all this dungeon is too easy, but i think you need easy thing for new comers, the question is : it's even too easy for new comers ?
Now for the savage raid, the problem is : to reach all the players, a normal Mode, extreme mode and savage mode should be the way to go.
Mid Core FC don't have enough times for Savage like A1 to A8.

[Dzian]

Dungeon be more and more easy ? i remember ampdaport was easy like the new ones.
I think all this dungeon is too easy, but i think you need easy thing for new comers, the question is : it's even too easy for new comers ?
Now for the savage raid, the problem is : to reach all the players, a normal Mode, extreme mode and savage mode should be the way to go.
Mid Core FC don't have enough times for Savage like A1 to A8.

you have easy things for new comers. leterally everything in the game... but you also need to realise that by the time a player gets to alex or extreme primals they're a long way past being a new comer....

expert dungeons should be at least mildly challenging and every new dungeon should be slightly tougher than the last....
what about new comenrs they need easy content. they'd have it. sastasha copperbell halitali totorak. the curve would increase gradually as they progressed. every dungeon they unlocked would be another step up that mountain. so when it came round to extreme primals and stuff like that players would already be half way up the mountain...

the way the game is now everything is getting easier and easier. and players are still at the base of the mountain and haven't even begun to climb it yet... in another thread I said this is why the no bonus culture exists. because players still at the base of the mountain think they are near the top... and they clearly aren't... because they've not even started to climb..

where if content actually got harder the further players progressed. by the time a player unlocked an extreme / savage raid, they'd be at least half way up the proverbial mountain of clearing it. instead of just standing at the base...

I also thinki this is why the playerbase seems to be shrinking cos everything is so easy its boring and not all satisfying or rewarding.....

[Pallero]

meaningless overtuned (savage) content

hahahahahaha

[HoodRat]

Why make difficult content when most of the people paying you money will never touch it?

[Yonanja]

Why make difficult content when most of the people paying you money will never touch it?

Even if most people doesn't touch the harder content, it still gives most people the feeling that there's more to the game. I never raided during vanila WoW for example, this didn't mean that I couldn't think that seeing people running around in their purples were kinda cool. It gave me something to aim towards, that maybe someday I would have the same stuff as well.

FFXIVs content doesn't at all give that feeling tho, since everything, except a few choice encounters, are VERY easy. And there's really nothing to make one aspire to do that content either, not even just hoping of doing it, since the rewards from them are really lackluster. Why even bother to try and become better, so that I might be able to tackle savage, when if I just wait a few weeks I'll be able to get better rewards with no effort at all?

SE should really reconsider their patches, and the way they structure their content. The only relevant content is only ever the latest patch ones, and all else is just there to farm tomes in, or in a few cases repeatedly do for the relic. Maybe if they tried to make content last for longer than one patch, they wouldn't have to keep coming up with different weird reasons to go back to the other stuff?

On topic: Yes, I was highly dissapointed in Proto. I didn't really have much expectations about him, but I at the very least expected him to be his own thing, and not just a trashmob in an already pretty stale 24-man dungeon.

[KarstenS]

Why make difficult content when most of the people paying you money will never touch it?

People that touch it is not the same as people that finish it

All we know about Gordias and Midas is a not accurate amount of full clears. We don't know how many have partial clears or how many have tried it at all.