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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    My main issue is that they put in in Dun Scaith. I hate Dun Scaith... D;
    It's not like Dun Scaith was dead content yet either, so I really don't see why they had to tack it on that way.

    Having said that, I do have to agree with everyone's disappointment on who easy it was...
    I was kind of expecting an actual Trial and not just a trash-mini-boss.
    The story for why it is there is really flimsy too.
    Did you hire writers to actually write that?
    Personally, I would have preferred Proto-Ultima burning Dun Scaith to a cinder but yeah know... XD
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    Khalith Mateo
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    It's still more fun than the succubus.
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    As we closer to StormBlood, they're going to make it increasingly easier to gear up. Because we're in the "catch up" cycle. Everything after the raid patch is designed to help non raiders catch up to the raiders in gear levels. In a month, the gobdip will be available for the 3 void ark pennies and everybody will be able to get an i270 weapon effortlessly.

    So it doesn't surprise me all that much. If Proto Ultima was a difficult fight, not many people would care to do it because there's already an easy way to get i270 accessories.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    I think this quote from reddit said it best about the negative reaction:
    My problem with this situation is not the difficulty of Proto Ultima. It's the fact that Proto Ultima was put in as a replacement for a trash mini boss in Dun Scaith. Proto Ultima has been in the game ever since Heavensward released. You can see it flying around just before the World Fate in Azys Lla pops. So for almost 2 years, there was a lot of interest going around Proto Ultima already. When they announced it for Fan Fest as a Trial Battle for attendees, we all knew right away that it would be available in the game for everyone. So the expectation for a new trial was already high among the community, and grew larger as we saw the battle streamed live from Fan Fest. There's also history as well, since Odin was a Fan Fest Trial at the previous Fan Fests, and it was released as a Trial, and met the expectations of the community at that time.
    Unfortunately, the team decided to add Proto Ultima into the game as a Trash Monster to replace another Trash Monster. The community was expecting a 24 player Trial Fight, and unfortunately, they didn't get it. Instead, what we really got was an update to Dun Scaith, which was completely unnecessary. Maybe if Square Enix or Yoshida explained to the community how they were going to add him into the game, there wouldn't be as much hate as you see now. But they chose to keep quiet anyway, and the community was greatly let down because of it.
    While I don't expect Square-Enix to change the fight into a Trial Fight, they do at the very least need to explain to the community the reason why they made the decision to implement Proto Ultima the way they did in this patch. At the very least, they do owe us an explanation, because as you can see, a large portion of the community is very upset...
    The attention Pultima got in fanfest and beyond didn't match the implementation, leaving people feeling deceived. On the eve of an expansion, do people want that feeling? Is that going to garner trust of future announcements regarding Stormblood?
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    Last edited by Kallera; 03-02-2017 at 12:07 AM.

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    Nic Pay
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    Like you guys are really silly, I tell ya I will say there should have been zero hype behind this but Im not going to complain about free 270 accessories either, did we just not have this whole argument about skip soar and people whinning about that or did people already forget this. Are people still not able to clear A11s- A12s or did people forget about that, there shouldn't of been any hype but lets not act like all this game does is make super easy catering content for casuals only.

    Hell it never fails almost every time I run dun scathe parties wipe on the queen nearly every time and Im just lost its usually when she has like 15 percent hp, how many complaints about people making farm parties that wipe or joining them. Like stop acting like your so great at the game that you have beat everything without a single hurdle that may be the case for some but I know it isnt for alot either. The fight was lame it was forgettable but If you have leveled 13 jobs just be thankful for another way to have 270 pieces and give it a rest geez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Snip.
    ...what does any of what you just said have to do with the subject on hand?
    People aren't saying they wanted Proto-Ultima to be the new Savage-tier content, they're saying they wanted it to be its own content and not just a tacked on trash-boss that you can face roll through.
    Heaven forbid we get more Midcore content.
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    Xeno Lockheart
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    Just adding my number to the pile of peeps that are disappointed. I could care less about what it drops or difficulty. It's just they put a lot of effort to replace content that didn't need replaced. They could keep the trash and add the loot list to that trash. The trash there was harder and pugs could still clear easily so it should have at least matched that. The reality is it doesn't offer any new content. I will still only queue for that dungeon once a week reguardless.

    If it was its own instance, it'd offer something akin to what Odin did in 2.0. And peeps argue that it isn't played anymore. Well incentive is everything reguardless of difficulty, specially considering the whole i sync thing they added. Require a drop out of it to get your super pony and watch that dungeon magically make a come back. Just gotta be smart about it.
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    Last edited by Xenohart; 03-02-2017 at 06:27 AM.

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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Yes the fight is a bit sad but now imagine it would be way harder and would still be in dun scaith...have fun with spending for ever to get your weekly token because the disbands will be real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    I posted this in a similar thread, but I might as well put it here too (added one more thing for this thread):

    I'm impartial to it. I finally get to fight Proto-Ultima and rewards are cool. But the setting really doesn't fit much IMO.

    As easy as the fight is in Dun Scaith, people wipe to Proto-Ultima for a few reasons:

    1. Tanks fighting over aggro, getting others cleaved with Diffractive Laser
    2. Really low dps
    3. People not running away from the homing laser beams when they are targeted with an orange crosshair/prey. These beams also end up hitting others too at times when the prey targets run toward the alliance members.

    Don't underestimate Proto-Ultima, especially if you are in a pug with varying skill levels.
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