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    Yonanja's Avatar
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    Yona Lightbringer
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    Why make difficult content when most of the people paying you money will never touch it?
    Even if most people doesn't touch the harder content, it still gives most people the feeling that there's more to the game. I never raided during vanila WoW for example, this didn't mean that I couldn't think that seeing people running around in their purples were kinda cool. It gave me something to aim towards, that maybe someday I would have the same stuff as well.

    FFXIVs content doesn't at all give that feeling tho, since everything, except a few choice encounters, are VERY easy. And there's really nothing to make one aspire to do that content either, not even just hoping of doing it, since the rewards from them are really lackluster. Why even bother to try and become better, so that I might be able to tackle savage, when if I just wait a few weeks I'll be able to get better rewards with no effort at all?

    SE should really reconsider their patches, and the way they structure their content. The only relevant content is only ever the latest patch ones, and all else is just there to farm tomes in, or in a few cases repeatedly do for the relic. Maybe if they tried to make content last for longer than one patch, they wouldn't have to keep coming up with different weird reasons to go back to the other stuff?

    On topic: Yes, I was highly dissapointed in Proto. I didn't really have much expectations about him, but I at the very least expected him to be his own thing, and not just a trashmob in an already pretty stale 24-man dungeon.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    Why make difficult content when most of the people paying you money will never touch it?
    People that touch it is not the same as people that finish it

    All we know about Gordias and Midas is a not accurate amount of full clears. We don't know how many have partial clears or how many have tried it at all.
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    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

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    LuckiGoLucki's Avatar
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    Nyello Nandee
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    Ultros
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Please remember what Yoshi said about hard content. It's coming and it sounds like hell is coming with it so don't complain when its too hard.
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    Dirty Paws
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckiGoLucki View Post
    Please remember what Yoshi said about hard content. It's coming and it sounds like hell is coming with it so don't complain when its too hard.
    Not exactly known for keeping their words though are they.

    Yeah there should be easy content to make the game accessible, at the start, when you don't know how to play. Not in "Expert Roulette" and end game raids.
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    Nyello Nandee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaxx View Post
    Not exactly known for keeping their words though are they.

    Yeah there should be easy content to make the game accessible, at the start, when you don't know how to play. Not in "Expert Roulette" and end game raids.
    With so many people whining about it I'm sure they are going to follow up on it. Obviously I can't say 100% for sure, but at this point idk why they wouldn't want to try shutting up those who are complaining about content being too easy.
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    King Theoden
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 60

    Is this the best SE can do?

    Part of me is really hoping that this wasn't their original plan to put Proto Ultima in Dun Scaith and that the plan was actually to have it inside of the new Diadem as the "24 man instance" or whatever they were talking about... maybe when Diadem was delayed they didn't want to have both the Diadem AND Proto Ultima delayed by 2-3 weeks so they just threw it in to Dun Scaith for now? D: I know this is probably very unlikely but..... I am really hoping they either give us the fight that was at fan fest or have other plans for the fight like I said in Diadem or something else... because this is a joke. Everything to do with this patch has been a huge disappointment in my opinion. I was expecting Proto to be its own instance, not a trash mob that dies faster then any of the bosses in Dun Scaith.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckiGoLucki View Post
    With so many people whining about it I'm sure they are going to follow up on it. Obviously I can't say 100% for sure, but at this point idk why they wouldn't want to try shutting up those who are complaining about content being too easy.
    To be honest difficulty is only part of the equation it needs to be rewarding as well. Where as now people just skip primal's and raidsee because the rewards are just junk soon as the next patch hits anyway. Which is why the raiding population is so low and again is why most people don't bother melding or investing in there gear cos it'll just be tossed next patch so why bother.

    But going well off topic here so yeah just gonna wait and see if 4.0 does change things
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 80
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/125366389?t=31s

    This is not an acceptable fight to be put in the game. HP values needs to be increased for the mob at minimum. Even with a premade group you should not be killing a boss fight in 1min that is from the current level cap.
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiyoko View Post
    This is not an acceptable fight to be put in the game. HP values needs to be increased for the mob at minimum. Even with a premade group you should not be killing a boss fight in 1min that is from the current level cap.
    That was fast, I do like the idea of quests being out there that change somewhat the run, but was hoping there would be a bit more to it. Won't stop me from getting my ilv270 stuff, but still. I was thinking it would be his moves from the original sans the primals and instead put in some of the HW ones for fun..like the Triad and he would have some survival skills lol.
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    Gekko Kouga
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 100
    VERY DISAPPOINTED!

    I was at Fan Fest, and found the fight easy but at least cool-looking in the trial event.

    Even if they made Proto Ultima actually challenging, the presentation is all off, the lore doesn't work, they really just dumped it into Dun Scaith, and very, very forcibly at that.

    The instance at Fan Fest at least had Proto Ultima staged in an arena that looked like the Azys Lla area, which is where there had been sightings of it flying around. They could have at least created an "illusion" type lore and make the environment change, but as of now, he doesn't fit into Dun Scaith and is really out of place.

    On top of all that he isn't challenging at all which makes this whole 'fight' even less appealing.

    I think the development team can do MUCH better than this. If they were feeling lazy then just use the exact same trial from Fan Fest. At least people who couldn't make it to Fan Fest could experience the trial as it was.
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    Last edited by akomei; 03-01-2017 at 04:41 AM. Reason: very, very disappointed

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