Is our sub fee not enought

[ForctyusGold]

you dont need to buy anything from mogstation to have bigger fun in ffxiv. why the word forced ? i dont understand ...

[SokiYagami]

you dont need to buy anything from mogstation to have bigger fun in ffxiv. why the word forced ? i dont understand ...

This is kind of stretching it, but try to imagine this; you go to a steak restaurant, order a piece of fine rib-eye steak that is cooked to perfection along with a bottle of red wine, but just as you try to enjoy this delicious meal, you noticed something amiss. So you call for the waiter and ask for the cutlery but was inform that you will need to pay an additional cost for them. Now, nothing is stopping you from picking up the steak with your bare hands and chew on it directly, but it doesn't look elegant and you will probably get that delicious sauce all over your mouth, but can it be done? Sure, why not? Is it ideal, I don't know, you tell me.

TL;DR, people need to learn to see both side of the coin, and just because a piece of content doesn't matter much to you doesn't demerit another player's concern. And no, I don't think $15 sub entitle us to everything but I also agree the pricing on the kupo store is rather ridiculous.

[Roda]

Roleplaying.
Characters need to rest.
Resting includes lying down.
The base game lacks a standard emote in most mmorpgs.
The game is less fun to roleplay in if I cannot express my character in such a basic way.

[Vhailor]

I can understand putting past events items on mog station, but new emote/glamour/mount that goes straight to mogstation while not giving active sub a chance to obtain them in game is just pure greed, and whats even worst is that most item are solely single character, or if u have alt or future alt u will have to buy it again.

Until, and unless, users punish SE for this, they'll continue doing it.

Personally, I've sort of just tried to ignore it. It is absolutely greedy, but SE is hardly alone here; every company has realized that many customers don't mind being nickel-and-dimed to death to acquire all the content for a game they've supposedly already paid for. They also know that those who do dislike the feeling, tend not to boycott the game over it, particularly where MMOs are concerned.

Just a sad reality of capitalism. It's the gaming equivalent of a movie theater telling you that you can't bring your own soda into the building, and then turning around and charging you $7.00 for their own fountain drinks. Doesn't make it right, and it doesn't make it fun - but as long as the average person goes with the flow, it's really not worth digging in your heels.

Edit / PS - One thing I do that makes me feel a bit better about the situation is avoid spending anything myself. Additionally, I tend to look down on players using the mounts / emotes / etc. that are purchased on the Mog Station. Not in a 'they're a bad person' type of way, but more in a 'wow, that person actually fell for an utterly transparent money grab; glad I'm not them' type of way. I know it doesn't actually make a whit of objective difference, but it makes me feel better personally.

[Shougun]

[edit] Around 12:40, it's translated he mentions using the profits to add new things such as the EU data centre.

More housing options ! Wait, do you hear that? ... WOOOSH! That's the sound of all those new lots being purchased under an hour of being open haha. I should make an instanced house billboard or something so I can post it on the fly lol. Hope Yoshida has seen Wildstar, or out of the last 10 posts that I mentioned it that one of our forum gods suggested they check it out (just the housing system, suggest the trailer its short and easy to see~ lol) XD...

Just to add though this link doesn't prove that cash shop was used for adding more inventory space, but that they said that they use cash shop funds for somethings (like EU server). I'm sure some of it is helpful to the game, and other games.

A random aside.. I've always wondered if these fan fests (not just FFXIV, other games too) could find a better way to include everyone (while of course keeping the goodies to those who get the virtual ticket). I feel its a bit funny that A. it's incredibly easy to get around these things (every blizzcon like 50 different options pop up) B. pay or don't be considered a fan (?). Perhaps besides the virtual reward they could add an after party instance in game people could join and give a bunch of fireworks or something lol, then allow a non-premium stream to the public on twitch.

Even though since I've made the comparison it's worth mentioning Blizzcon's opening ceremony is free, you just don't get to watch the panels which tend to have a lot of info in them too.

[Reynhart]

This is kind of stretching it, but try to imagine this; you go to a steak restaurant, order a piece of fine rib-eye steak that is cooked to perfection along with a bottle of red wine, but just as you try to enjoy this delicious meal, you noticed something amiss. So you call for the waiter and ask for the cutlery but was inform that you will need to pay an additional cost for them.

No, it's more like you order your delicous steak, and you eat it with every piece of cutlery included, then you chose a big three-flavored ice-cream with fruits, and the waiter informs you that there is additionnal charge for whipped cream. Restaurants do that.

[SokiYagami]

No, it's more like you order your delicous steak, and you eat it with every piece of cutlery included, then you chose a big three-flavored ice-cream with fruits, and the waiter informs you that there is additionnal charge for whipped cream. Restaurants do that.

Depend on which cash item we are talking about. The new emote are more like cutlery while the mounts (especially the fat moogle ones) are more like the ice-cream.

And I just noticed this isn't the /dead thread, but my point still stand.

[Reynhart]

Depend on which cash item we are talking about. The new emote are more like cutlery while the mounts (especially the fat moogle ones) are more like the ice-cream.

Actually, I would say quite the opposite, since mounts makes the whole game much less tedious with faster movement, while the emotes have basically no "useful" purpose.

But since the game gives you plenty of free mounts, then cashshop mounts are more like "I don't want your basic cutlery which are fully functionnal for eating my steak...I want cutelry with diamonds and gold linings". Yeah, you're sure paying extra money for that.

[Harukochi]

i mean, its called OPTIONAL ITEMS for a reason

does it impact your gameplay in a significant way? no, its just something you OPTIONALLY choose to have for aesthetic.
was it at some time free? yes, you paid for sub for that time period, you get the items that come with it.

[Celef]

you dont need to buy anything from mogstation to have bigger fun in ffxiv. why the word forced ? i dont understand ...

We all know glamour is the true fun in this game so.....

I don't get it why are you people so willing to give SE more and more money ? oO