Is our sub fee not enought

[Skivvy]

It boggles my mind how anyone can think anything in this game could be considered "free.". 15 dollars a month plus now three box prices, more if you play on multiple systems. That is in no way free. You can argue subjective values until you're blue in the face, but nothing about ffxiv is free.

I think you've missed the point. No one thinks XIV if free to play. What people are debating is whether all items should be included in that subscription fee vs. having a cash shop. Thought this was fairly obvious :X

[Roda]

I think you've missed the point. No one thinks XIV if free to play. What people are debating is whether all items should be included in that subscription fee vs. having a cash shop. Thought this was fairly obvious :X

I'd interpret it that way if people weren't using the word "free.". Free items and content are different than items and content provided by our sub. A welcome back campaign with an open access weekend is free. A seasonal event with rewards is covered by our sub. If people don't mean "free" then don't say the content is free.

[WeekendSoja]

I'd interpret it that way if people weren't using the word "free.". Free items and content are different than items and content provided by our sub. A welcome back campaign with an open access weekend is free. A seasonal event with rewards is covered by our sub. If people don't mean "free" then don't say the content is free.

With people asking for purchasable items on the mogstation to be provided to them with no such fee, pretty sure that is an apt definition of "free", especially since in the history of MMO's SE has more than substantially overcompensated us for the subscription fee we are currently paying. In my example above, those MMO's also had box prices attached to them, they didn't have multi-platform accessibility back than but if they did they would have charged per platform access, that's just business lol.

I still stand by my example of past and present pay structures above, FF14 could simply get rid of the cash shop and people would just find something else to gripe about, like the lack of glamour options and emotes, but than I would just be here laughing my ass off if that were to be the case.