Is our sub fee not enought

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

This game seems to have a very spoiled player base at least on the forums, its things Id love in the game but Im not gona expect everything just cause I pay 15 well really for me 20 bucks a month.

As a 10+ year MMO veteran, this is nothing. Almost all MMO official forums have a vocal minority complaining about anything and everything from "this player did that thing and I don't like it" to "stop making items for your cash shop and spend that money on things I want." Few here, if anyone, actually understands how FFXIV's development team is structured, how decisions are made (or even by whom they are made), how their budget works, how much oversight Square-Enix corporate has over the game's operation itself, etc.

Everyone on the forums has a Bachelor's in Business and/or Computer Science and knows how easy it is to make the things they want in the game. /s

[Skivvy]

As a 10+ year MMO veteran, this is nothing. Almost all MMO official forums have a vocal minority complaining about anything and everything from "this player did that thing and I don't like it" to "stop making items for your cash shop and spend that money on things I want." Few here, if anyone, actually understands how FFXIV's development team is structured, how decisions are made (or even by whom they are made), how their budget works, how much oversight Square-Enix corporate has over the game's operation itself, etc.

Everyone on the forums has a Bachelor's in Business and/or Computer Science and knows how easy it is to make the things they want in the game. /s

I am also a 10+ year MMO veteran, and this discussion definitely has a place to exist. Don't simply try and write it off as "the vocal minority" complaining again.

For what it is worth, I am 100% OK with cash shops being in F2P and B2P games as all companies need to have a source of income from somewhere. I've spent my more than fair share in these other games, and I have no regrets.

For XIV, you first have to purchase the game itself (which is fine), then pay a subscription (also OK), and then if you want to collect all items (including exclusives), you can pay even more money at their cash shop (this is where the issue begins).

In my opinion, a cash shop on a subscription game should NEVER contain exclusive items. Give the players a chance to obtain all items in game, at least once, then maybe move those items into the cash shop. There will always be players who started late, or missed an event.