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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    My main beef with the Cash Grab is that these emotes/dresses/things are not account wide. At the bare minimum, any item that goes into the cash shop should be account wide, because if we're going to be made to pay for "extra" content, then it had better be in our hands 24/7 after that, otherwise why pay for it? Especially at such high prices.

    My other beef with the Cash Grab is that there is nothing "extra" about this content. It takes time for them to develop, which means that they spend less time developing the rest of the game for regular subscribers. In other words, the quality of the game goes down, as does the value of a subscription. Every item they add to the Cash Grab is an item that could have gone towards giving me incentive to continually renew my subscription. At the rate that they are doubling down on the cash shop though, particularly with something so base as emotes, they will eventually drive away subscribers, especially if they keep on with cash shop exclusives.

    As I have explained, in budgeting there is main project and side project. The main project is the main part of the game with costs covered by our subs. Side projects, short term developed content intended to return a higher yield, is seeded by capitol developed by other side projects and has its time and resources allotted separate from the main game's.

    You lose nothing of the main game due to side projects as these teams are not random, sitting paperclips into the ceiling. The time is scheduled and project deadlines laid out with time allotted for all. Unless of course SE does business different from literally every business in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    As I have explained, in budgeting there is main project and side project. The main project is the main part of the game with costs covered by our subs. Side projects, short term developed content intended to return a higher yield, is seeded by capitol developed by other side projects and has its time and resources allotted separate from the main game's.

    You lose nothing of the main game due to side projects as these teams are not random, sitting paperclips into the ceiling. The time is scheduled and project deadlines laid out with time allotted for all. Unless of course SE does business different from literally every business in the world.
    You are confusing development projects and products. Are you a dev or in R&D? =-)

    The way things are developed makes no difference to the end user, if the entirety is considered a single product. That is my gripe. When I buy the software I am buying access to the IP in an expansion (in my view)... and I pay a subscription for maintenance and support of that content (including server maintenance/access). The more content that is being re-classified as "out of scope" of purchase, the less value I perceive to be getting from that purchase.

    Considering they publish expansions with incomplete content and expect us players to take it on faith more will be developed, delivering the value of the expansion- to say that some arbitrarily defined additional content (to be determined) is NOT included really leaves in question the value we are paying for up front and what the sub covers.
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    you know. the more i think about it. the more i realize we are getting dangerously close to an age where people will sell bottles of air and there will be people who will defend it ._.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalta View Post
    you know. the more i think about it. the more i realize we are getting dangerously close to an age where people will sell bottles of air and there will be people who will defend it ._.
    *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    *cough*
    thank you for proving me right -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalta View Post
    you know. the more i think about it. the more i realize we are getting dangerously close to an age where people will sell bottles of air and there will be people who will defend it ._.
    If people are dumb enough to think that a virtual emote is as important as air, I'm happy that they're charged for that
    Quote Originally Posted by dalta View Post
    thank you for proving me right -_-
    Sure, breathing and scuba diving is absolutely the same.../facepalm

    Guess what...you're not forced to go scuba diving
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-05-2017 at 03:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalta View Post
    you know. the more i think about it. the more i realize we are getting dangerously close to an age where people will sell bottles of air and there will be people who will defend it ._.
    And the worst part is, it won't even be a cool world and age like it is in Total Recall. Just boring old regular Earth except where everything costs and everything costs more.
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    It's honestly no different than DLC you buy for other games. Only it's strictly vanity.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    It's honestly no different than DLC you buy for other games. Only it's strictly vanity.
    Right because you pay a sub to most other games that have dlc
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraKershaw View Post
    Right because you pay a sub to most other games that have dlc
    Non-story, non-gameplay affecting vanity items.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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