Does it get any better?

[sandyshbl]

I just bought the game a week or two ago. 55 BLM atm. Anyways, so I have played many mmo's (wow/swtor/ aion +tons of other korean mmos) for like probably 15 years. I know the sample size is small, but in no other mmo than ff14 have I met people who whine in lowbie dungeons about the way you play. I just perma constant pull cause I want to speed up the run and not have down time. I've been kicked several times cause "I'm being stupid". Mind you, the people who actually kick me don't have sprouts. It's not like they're learning the game, making it hard for a first time healer to heal me through taking aggro or something. It has always been kids with multiple 60's complaining.

If they were able to hold a dialogue to come to an understanding, I'd be okay with the situation. But these kids can't take any words whatsoever that go against their style of play. Even just explaining "Hey, we haven't died yet, we're fine, just trying to save time" results in kicks.

Only in ff14 so far. As much as I've enjoyed playing ff14 otherwise, I've never gotten annoyed by a community this early, making me consider trying out another mmo.

Edit: Taika- never thought of it as harassing before- thx for insight
hobostew- the "steamrolling" mindset comment -thx for understanding where I'm coming from first (beyond right and wrong), instead of just attacking me like some have done

[Taika]

Pulling as a DD is generally considered harassing your party, since it makes it much harder for everyone else (and is not likely to speed things up if you're messing up the pulls).

[AlphaFox]

If your not the tank, don't pull. Pretty much been the motto I have lived by even in WoW years ago.

[seraf]

If your not the tank, don't pull. Pretty much been the motto I have lived by even in WoW years ago.

I've been in Dungeons before as the Tank and didn't feel like doing big pulls for one reason or another but that never stops the random Bard or Scholar from running ahead and pulling the next mob pack to me. It's frustrating.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I've been in Dungeons before as the Tank and didn't feel like doing big pulls for one reason or another but that never stops the random Bard or Scholar from running ahead and pulling the next mob pack to me. It's frustrating.

This happened to me in Darkhold. I generally do small pulls after the first boss. Way too many experiences with people falling off the ledge or getting punted back by the toad. The Scholar didn't appreciate that and kept pulling extra mobs which nearly wiped us since I hadn't noticed at first. In response, when we got to the room with the skeleton, I grabbed everything. Despite blowing all my cooldowns-- even Holmgang-- she couldn't heal me through it and we died. She stopped for me after that.

[Yasuhiro]

If your not the tank, don't pull. Pretty much been the motto I have lived by even in WoW years ago.

I don't mind other classes pulling some mobs towards me if I'm tanking a pack and more monsters spawn for example if like a White mage wants to pull a pack of monsters out of my reach to me so I can unleash/overpower/flash on them while I'm already holding aggro with a large pack.

I will say I don't like it if a healer or DPS is running ahead of me and pulling things when I'm meant to be tanking.

[Vaer]

Pretty sure in WoW people kick for pulling mobs/bosses as DPS.

[hobostew]

Pretty sure in WoW people kick for pulling mobs/bosses as DPS.

I think OP is having a problem because in WoW and other games people kinda steamroll leveling dungeons so he wouldn't get kicked necessarily. In FFXIV the level sync makes it a bit harder to do so most people will avoid doing so outside of the level cap dungeons.

[Callinon]

I think OP is having a problem because in WoW and other games people kinda steamroll leveling dungeons so he wouldn't get kicked necessarily. In FFXIV the level sync makes it a bit harder to do so most people will avoid doing so outside of the level cap dungeons.

Actually I've played the other games he mentioned there (wow, swtor, aion...) and in none of those are dps responsible for pulling in dungeons. The tank's in charge of that, period.

[sandyshbl]

Actually I've played the other games he mentioned there (wow, swtor, aion...) and in none of those are dps responsible for pulling in dungeons. The tank's in charge of that, period.

I of course agree the responsibility lies in the tank, in any mmo. That goes without question. However, in all of those games once you got to end game, did you (or anyone else here) not once develop the mindset of "Ok we don't need to be playing this safe, let's speed this up" and then change your play style accordingly?