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  1. #1
    Player
    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    The Mist, Ward 9, Plot 2
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    I am getting sick and tired of finding a piece of gear I need for one of my Job classes and someone with higher lvl gear who clearly doesn't need it anymore goes and hits the "Need" button anyways and snatches it away!

    Higher levels geared players should NOT have the ability to do that and needs to be changed where they have to gamble with their luck through the Greed command like everyone else who's Job class doesn't relate to a certain piece of drop gear in a dungeon.
    Did you try asking for said gear? Usually if a person asks ahead of time, people are nice enough to pass.

    I know if dungeon gear drops on a class I'm playing, I'm rolling need. My need is always more ventures and doing F.A.T.E.s is inefficient in the sense that I'm only gaining seals and not lore/scripts and a chance at seals. Unless someone asks, I'll keep doing this, but will pass when asked.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 02-28-2017 at 11:04 AM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Character
    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    You get like, 200 seals per fate. Level 60 gear is worth over 1000 seals per piece.
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    Player
    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You get like, 200 seals per fate. Level 60 gear is worth over 1000 seals per piece.
    And no lore/ scripts. I already explained this and it doesn't change the fact people can simply ask.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Character
    Seigyoku Cypher
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 66
    Maybe the other person needed it for a lower level job of the same role. In any case; if you were there specifically for gear for another job, you should have run as that job. If it just happened to be something you could use for another job, then you're really only entitled to ask if the others would be willing to pass on it for you. You can simply wait to roll, ask, and if everyone agrees to pass, give them time to do so, and then roll to get the item.

    The need lockout is designed to stop people from trying to claim "need" for gear for every job in the game at the same time, not to stop someone from rolling on a piece of gear lower than the one they have. Maybe they need the seals, or the desynth, or the glamour. The point is they're currently playing a job that can equip that item; that's all that's necessary for them to be entitled to it.
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    AmalonStar's Avatar
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    Character
    Amalon Starfire
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    As much as it sucks when some one needs on a piece of gear you were wanting if you are not on that job to 'need' yourself unless you had asked at the start of the dungeon you can't really complain much. Personally I'll only greed on stuff to be fair to others unless it is something I intend to actually equip, there have been a few occasions where I have needed on gear with the intent to trade them for seals to get mats for my anima. You can say do fates or leves for seals but trading gear you get way more seals that way.

    OP you have 6 jobs at lv 60 and unless you levelled them all in Potd you know how the system works. Have you ever 'needed' on gear you were going to use for something else?

    As others have already said it doesn't matter what the need is whether its a gear upgrade, seals, desynth, glamor everyones need is different and just as important. Most people if you ask will pass on items you ask for but don't expect people to just know you need that item for another job, no one is able to read your mind.
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    Last edited by AmalonStar; 02-28-2017 at 11:36 AM.

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    Nabiri's Avatar
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    Character
    Khaien Akiyama
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Recently I was running Alex Creator for the glamour (one of my favourite sets), I only needed one more foot item to finish the set. I must've run that thing 20+ times with no luck, and queues took a while because I was going on a damage class. So I was trying for days. Finally I rolled high and hoped for the best. Wasn't paying attention to chat after battle because I was so bored from running it over and over, so I didn't see till after I finally got the item that someone else had asked for it. A few of them went all caps-lock on me saying that they had come in there as friends to try to upgrade that person's gear. They started calling me names and such. With how rude they were afterward I was kind of glad I wasn't paying attention to them.
    Either way, I would have politely told them that I had been trying for days and really wanted to finish my set, so I'm sorry but I need it too.
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  7. #7
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    Oscura's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Shion Sumeragi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    When I play off-role and see gear I want for either glamour or stats, I just ask my party if they need/want it, or if they mind that I have it for said glamour or stats. It has never once failed me. Usually if someone wants it for seals or desynth, and you speak up saying you want to actually use it, people sometimes understand. Sometimes, communication is all that is needed. If someone were to take it regardless, I would understand, it's why I ask, not demand.

    Do not expect people to simply pass on anything with the impression they can read your mind.
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    Emstidor's Avatar
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    Emstidor Diabolos
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 71
    I had a Monk start complaining in Dun Scaith on week 2 after I beat his roll for the MNK body piece. I was in regular Shire gear, he was in like, i240, and he simply .couldn't understand that my running this raid for cool new glamour pieces was 100% as much a valid reason to roll on gear as his loot catch-up

    I guess I was just supposed to pass ond hope it dropped on the next run? Sure, that sounds fair.
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    I had a Monk start complaining in Dun Scaith on week 2 after I beat his roll for the MNK body piece. I was in regular Shire gear, he was in like, i240, and he simply .couldn't understand that my running this raid for cool new glamour pieces was 100% as much a valid reason to roll on gear as his loot catch-up

    I guess I was just supposed to pass ond hope it dropped on the next run? Sure, that sounds fair.
    Yeah I was in the same situation with the healer gear. I'm supposed to miss out on the neat look of the new robe just because I worked to cap my scripture every week and already had my Shire coat? I don't think so.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    If you want better odds on gear you actually need, then go on that specific job or try asking beforehand. You'll often find people willing to pass if you ask politely.
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