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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Because you don't understand things in game development costs a lot of money, and they can easily soften the blow by subbing a fee for a basic game (you pay a lot more monthly for something you should already get for free in your life, btw.)

    XIV has already been free for over a year, making almost no money, you expect them to run an absolutely free MMO (-box cost) for another year with almost no profit? I'm pretty sure Square isn't self-funding this game for no reason, and sooner or later other departments will eventually feel XIV's development sting if they keep funneling money into the project but producing nothing in return.
    Not our fault as customers that they put out a garbage product and said they are willing to fix it. The pity stops when they start charging, hell it stopped a while ago for most people.

    So now its the game they wanted (which it clearly is not) they should re-review it now. Of course it will get slammed again and just get more bad press (the charging bit got quite a few people mad, and it made news for gaming sites)

    stop giving this game a pity party. If it was any other game right now, it would be shut down or F2P a long time ago. Give us something substantial or dont expect people to pay for it. There is too many issues that cant and wont be fixed until 2.0...one of the huge ones being the joke of a copy/paste world and the crap servers. Telling people to pay for these problems knowing that a version of it that works is a year away is begging for people to leave.
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    Last edited by Zanfire; 12-03-2011 at 03:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Because you don't understand things in game development costs a lot of money, and they can easily soften the blow by subbing a fee for a basic game (you pay a lot more monthly for something you should already get for free in your life, btw.)

    XIV has already been free for over a year, making almost no money, you expect them to run an absolutely free MMO (-box cost) for another year with almost no profit? I'm pretty sure Square isn't self-funding this game for no reason, and sooner or later other departments will eventually feel XIV's development sting if they keep funneling money into the project but producing nothing in return.
    The game is essentially in development. Are we both funding AND buying their product? That is preposterous. I'd like to earn some of the revenue this project makes; if were becoming investors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    I play the game to "hangout" one would say. I do events with my ls. craft. blow things up with materia. run around the landscape (even though it's copy/paste). escort the chocobos through the danger that is the black shroud, and whatever else I find to amuse myself. also talking in vent while I run laps around town. lulz
    This is a thread about endgame content. Not a thread about how many hours we can spend running around in circles doing literally nothing and pretending it's entertainment. There is nearly no relevant endgame content in the game at the moment. This is a fact.

    To you people who have no argument other than "you guys are obsessed with loot!":

    Seriously? Progression is the fundamental tenet of the entire RPG genre, and has been for I don't know.. the past 30 years? Experiencing a new fight MIGHT be fun for the first few times. After that, the reason you keep farming a boss isn't because you utterly enjoy repeating the same mechanics hundreds upon hundreds of times, it's because you need to acquire the gear to get stronger for the next challenge. It's so you get the satisfaction of equipping a piece of gear that makes you stronger, makes you look stronger, makes you hit harder, etc. Endgame players find the sense of achievement and the acquisition of rare items to be the fun.

    ESPECIALLY in an mmo (at endgame), Gear is the carrot on the stick which keeps people playing and drives people to keep going through content.

    Defeating a difficult boss should appropriately reward you with gear which makes you stronger and better equipped for what lies ahead. In this game, by and large, you are rewarded with garbage for what little endgame content there is. This makes absolutely no sense, and given how simple it would be for devs to fix the issue, it''s puzzling that they haven't.
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    Last edited by Ronik; 12-02-2011 at 03:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronik View Post
    This is a thread about endgame content.
    If you read, you would have seen how he asked what I do to entertain myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    If you read, you would have seen how he asked what I do to entertain myself.
    I think YOU need to reread the original post.
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    Last edited by Lucifer; 12-03-2011 at 02:01 AM.

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    Level 50 is NOT endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Level 50 is NOT endgame.
    Until they raise level it is. Doesn't matter what will happen in a year, right now it's all end game for people.

    btw. SE plans to raise levels in expansions so I guess there will never be end game content this way? really think a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quisi View Post
    really think a little.
    Is that supposed to be an insult?

    Yoshi said the game is 50% done. I think I read or heard in the Live Producer Letter that they are not planning on a level increase until after PS3 release or 1.21.

    I believe that people overuse terms like "endgame", when what they really mean is level cap. They haven't even released advanced jobs yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    I believe that people overuse terms like "endgame", when what they really mean is level cap. They haven't even released advanced jobs yet.
    The content designed for the players at the current level cap is the endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    The content designed for the players at the current level cap is the endgame.
    Not at level 50 it isn't.

    "They have not even released advanced jobs yet"

    There is no meriting.

    Maybe if you're from lolWoW that means: alternate advancement points.

    This is Final Fantasy and it's nowhere near endgame yet. There are no advanced areas like sky and sea.

    You are not putting the cart in front of the horse, but are on the road, with a horse and a load of manure to haul, when the cart has not even been invented yet.
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