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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    He does? You do remember that when the fight came out, there was a lot of debate as to whether or not his gear was even better than +2 gear that already existed? As I recall the only clear winner was for MRD tanks, because the Canopus Bill had the most Parry of any weapon at the time; but that's no longer true, either. And, of course, materia makes crafted gear the undeniable winner.

    I will grant it's a fun fight, but people don't do old content just because it was a fun fight if there's new content that is also fun and has better rewards.
    Canopus Shield has 122 block rate which is the highest in the game. Can't beat that with any materia.

    Revolutionary's Bilaud is nice for CNJ Int : +5, Mnd : +5, Pty : +5,
    Magic Accuracy : +4, Magic Evasion : +4, Parry : +4.

    Yes, you can beat that with materia, but it's still good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    My point is that the state of FFXIV has so much content planned for the near future that your complaint really does not have merit and is not comparable to other extant endgame in other MMOs.
    I'm just having so much fun playing that planned content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    You don't get XP off of Ifrit.
    Yes, you do. You get ~5000 for each kill and, if you're good enough, can even get chain 1 inside the battle lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    Yes, you do. You get ~5000 for each kill and, if you're good enough, can even get chain 1 inside the battle lol.
    Not if you're level 50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Not if you're level 50.
    Um.. ya lol. You still get exp on the class you're fighting on, even if it doesn't go towards anything. And unless you have all lv50 classes, you can level up any class with the exp reward from the quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    Um.. ya lol. You still get exp on the class you're fighting on, even if it doesn't go towards anything. And unless you have all lv50 classes, you can level up any class with the exp reward from the quest.
    It's not a repeatable quest that you can continue to get XP on every victory is it?

    800+ posts? Is this a part-time job for you?
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    Blocking is not DPS.

    Bilaud is from that dungeon.

    Quit trolling and derailing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Blocking is not DPS.

    Bilaud is from that dungeon.

    Quit trolling and derailing.
    Right, blocking is not DPS. That's why I said ". . . if you need a DPS shield, that +2 STR is on their [sic]." I mentioned DPS at all because there are better tanking shields, namely Vintage Kite Shield + materia.

    The Bliaud is indeed from DD. However, you said that Batraal had nice loot and is a fun fight. In support of that, you brought up the Shield (Batraal loot) and the Bliaud (not Batraal loot). I dismissed the Bliaud out of hand because, well, it's not Batraal gear. All of the mages in my LS had a Bliaud before we ever downed Batraal. That's neither trolling nor derailing.
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    If the dungeons were repeatable quests and gave exp (god forbid maybe even seals) after every success like Ifrit does then i would be more inclined to keep doing them. Ifrit is a great source of EXP for crafting and gathering classes from the upper 30s on, and is much more fun than sitting there spamming standard synthesis. I found the Darkhold to be fun but I like many other ppl got the majority of gear from it before Ifrit came out. Now i find it hard to justify going back to do it again with absolutely nothing to gain when i could be gaining exp on some other class instead.

    It would also be nice if each new thing did not completely negate all of the old stuff. Save for a few pieces (Warlock's Pattens? but even then only for lolnuking), the Darkhold has completely obsolete gear. Yes, new content should have some of the best gear....but not all of it. What i hope happens is that the Moogle fight drops awesome mage weapons and maybe one or 2 melee weapons that are the best, while some of Ifrit's weapons still remain the best for other classes. That way there could still be demand to do both. But hey, this is SE we're talking about. Since when do they do smart things like that?
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    Zanfire Leoz
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    moogle staff: +15 critical hit rate/resist and additional damage = sad mages XD

    or it would be funny for them to do the opposite and bone the melee with like +15 magic acc on everything.
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