A list of abilities that healers get too late and needs changing.

[bass9020]

I don't understand how unlocking useful abilities earlier is making them all the same... They are abilites they will have at 60 anyway >.>

PLD has the same problem, shield oath being unlocked at 40 is a stupid design choice and makes tanking a chore. Them getting that at lvl 30 mean it's instantly the same as a WAR? That is your logic afterall.

It was more about the scholar getting cc things whm has. I should have been more clear but I'm tired and lazy.

[Underdog2204]

It was more about the scholar getting cc things whm has. I should have been more clear but I'm tired and lazy.

Oh yah stuff like that shouldn't happen.

[TaleraRistain]

Speaking of Leveling roulettes, isn't it weird that when doing lowlevel (below lvl30) dungeons, we have access to less crossclass abilities than if we would be at that level due to being a job, but we have no access to our job abilities so it's 100% a loss (except for scholar who gets the fairy but that's a special case).

Oh it cheeses me off so bad that *I* can't Stoneskin because I'm synced down to a level before I get it but *other* people can Stoneskin through cross-class even though they also are under the level before it would be accessible. Cross-class skills really need to take original level of acquisition into account.

[Felis]

Speaking of Leveling roulettes, isn't it weird that when doing lowlevel (below lvl30) dungeons, we have access to less crossclass abilities than if we would be at that level due to being a job, but we have no access to our job abilities so it's 100% a loss (except for scholar who gets the fairy but that's a special case).

If I could have it my way, I would let us keep our crossclass-slots up till level 25 when playing as a Job and just don't get any more slots after 25.
That way, we have access to the same amount of crossclassabilities as the people at that level.

Jobs and classes have the same amount of cross-class skill slots at the same level.

[Konakyun]

SCH needs a stun, heavy, and pushback to use in PvP

lets leave the most of the stuff u have said "wrong" and focus on this ( SCH do have a push back skill )

[Yasminou]

Jobs and classes have the same amount of cross-class skill slots at the same level.

No they do not. Classes can access 10 cross-class skills: the first one at lv. 1, and then an extra 1 at every level divisible by 5 until level 50.
Jobs can access 5 cross-class skills: the first one at lv. 10 and then an extra 1 at every level divisible by 10 until level 50. This is to compensate their 5 jobs abilities between lv 30 and lv 50.

So, in Sastasha and Tam-Tara: a job will have one cross-class skill while a class will have 3.

[Nihility]

leeches is annoying but i've found the fairy more than makes up for it. The only part that is a little sketchy with a scholar is the green dragon in brayflox but still totally manageable.
now that your fairy has a cleanse probably very easy, just cleanse the poison at a few stacks and the damage drops back to easy again. Keeping them on obey is np too they still auto-cure and everything else is just one button when you want the effect. No targeting or anything required

Cards aren't a problem either, the way it's set up your slowly adding complexity to the system becoming used to it bit by bit so manipulating cards develops naturally. I will say though gravity and malefic 2 are far too high. Astro soloing and AoE are beyond pathetic without them

WHM mp can be a bit sketchy before shroud but their passives are designed around mp conservation. It may be a bit of a harsh lesson for some but learning how to conserve mp is important for WHM and if you do it right you shouldn't have any problems in the earlier dungeons. The amount of times i've been paired with a white mage that exclusively uses cure II then complains about mp is far too many

shield oath should probably be 30, pld is really awkward during the part it doesn't have that

outside of that the only one that bothers me is DRG should get both the fang and claw skills together. Getting the second one currently feels like a downgrade

[Jijifli]

AST doesn't need every card related skill right at 30. People just starting the job already have trouble figuring out what each card does. Imagine teaching them about saving a card, royal roading one to buff another, and rerolling for specific card types RIGHT out of it.

It'd overwhelm the player to start off, and second of all, you'd have to take other skills and make them be obtained by quests instead.

SE wanted the player to learn the cards at a slower pace, not put everything in your face at once.

[Xaeth]

Oh it cheeses me off so bad that *I* can't Stoneskin because I'm synced down to a level before I get it but *other* people can Stoneskin through cross-class even though they also are under the level before it would be accessible. Cross-class skills really need to take original level of acquisition into account.

While I care more about giving classes/jobs access to things they need, I agree that it's a bit odd.

Then again, if we had to consider the level we have access to certain abilities when choosing which order we should sort our crossclassskills, it would create more problems than it is worth.

[Cordie]

Has anyone ever had any trouble healing with any healer class <50?(!)
I can heal those just fine with Physick on BLM!