Got kicked from The Aetherochemical Research Facility by mentor

[Sylve]

But there are d-bags everywhere. Crowned and uncrowned.

The funny thing is the healer wouldn't have had any time to dps in this run, being that they'd have to spam heals at the DDs to keep them alive lol.

Had a run in Sohm Al leveling my DRG where the Paladin, in full i260 collects up all the mobs in the first room, then gets confused why he died. 2 DRGs and a new Healer and he thought he could play a leveling dungeon like it was Ex Roulette.
To his credit, he acknowledged that was a dumb move and we got normal sized pulls after that lol.

[Callinon]

The funny thing is the healer wouldn't have had any time to dps in this run, being that they'd have to spam heals at the DDs to keep them alive lol.

Had a run in Sohm Al leveling my DRG where the Paladin, in full i260 collects up all the mobs in the first room, then gets confused why he died. 2 DRGs and a new Healer and he thought he could play a leveling dungeon like it was Ex Roulette.
To his credit, he acknowledged that was a dumb move and we got normal sized pulls after that lol.

Thing is, a leveling dungeon is pretty much going to take 30-35 minutes no matter how fast you pull things. That's just the way it is... because you're leveling. You don't have all your tools and your gear probably sucks.

In the run I described I did consider pulling multiple packs and dying to prove the point to them. The problem with that is that purposefully pulling more than I know I can handle and wiping the group would have ACTUALLY been my fault. I already hate being wrong about things. Why would I do it on purpose?

[RubyCirha]

As a mentor myself I'm sorry this took place this iratates me i feel we should be held a countable for our actions more so then normal players for this verry reason being a mentor should not be some sort of status symbol it should be reserved to those that actualy help others again I'm sorry this happend to you but sadly the prerequisites to being a mentor are pretty simple to acomplished that and there's a mount locked behind the system so that means people just do it for that and don't do anything to help the new players

[Maero]

One has to firstly understand how easily they made it for players to get Mentor status, many are unfit to be Mentors and not all but some just use the status for their own advantages.
I think SE tried to implement it with good intentions but like everything else, there are always people that ruin it for others.
Do not let it discourage you OP, just practice and find a good group of friends, people can be jerks in game.

[vigioX-Sun]

I'm very sorry for that bad taste of experience, but the damage is done an is time to patch it.
Try to find a mentor, not even that but a person that main your class to teach you an make you a better tank, you be surprise the amount of people that will love to teach rotations, strategies how to pull an use your CDs.
Not sure if I can get with you in cross server PF, I'll be happy to go a few runs an teach you how to be an agresive tank, you will get lot of commendation.
All you need is practice an the confidence.
An like the trailer of God of war:
Don't be sorry, be better.

[Neri]

Relax OP, even if you pull them all, there could be a case that you might not be able to hold enmity or the healer couldn't heal you back and it could cause a wipe, then you would have been kick anyway.

Either you pull all or not, you would have been kicked if you were group with this kind of people.

It's not only happen with mentor though, it just happened to be that player is a mentor. I felt bad for you OP.

[Culfinrandir]

OP - you were completely in the right & should pay little attention to those who say "well just do as you're told & pull more". Why? Because you're the one who knows your abilities the best so know if you can hold hate & control the multiple mobs in this particular situation. People also forget that they may be sitting at i260 (synced to i180) whilst you could easily be at i145 - that makes a big difference when it comes to holding hate.

Personally, as a healer, I've seen disasters in ARF when tanks pull too large simply because of the sync issue, my heals can struggle to keep up with damage from huge pulls, especially if the tank loses hate to an overzealous DPS who doesn't pay attention. I've actually started to warn people at the start of the dungeon "Remember, this is synced & my heals are nowhere near as strong as in endgame" because tanks are sometimes expecting a regular 3k+ Physick when they might only get <1k.

[Taika]

OP, did you get the dungeon done yet? I'm on the same data center with you, so if you still need it and put a cross-server party finder up for it, I can join as a healer.

[Misutoraru]

But all these left a very bad taste in my mouth. Is being a new player in mmorpgs a crime nowadays?

it is not hard to become and mentor, and there are no psychological selection for mentor
in your case, you just met some "@ss"
tank is the one control the pace, and i respect his/her choice
in DF with 3 total strangers, i dont mind anything, it is all about the comfort of tank and heal
and I would say the so call mentor you met, is no more than just an "@ss" want a crown next to his/her name, and by his/her action, his/her mentor should be stripe

btw and trust me, the community is no where better in most case
those mentality are like virus outbreak

big or small pull all depend on Tank gear and healer gear
like earlier i was doing 5X in DF, the tank literally pull everything he can, and i have to spam Cure II to keep up with is lose, which drain my Mana to almost 20% at every pull and he give me no time to regen my Mana

[Hunky]

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Dismissing a player for completely neglecting their role is reasonable. I've seen players who don't pay attention and either only auto-attack or, if healer, let someone die.

But dismissing someone new because they're not pulling as big as you'd like is unfair. This is someone who is playing this dungeon for the first time. It's understandable that the person is apprehensive. Tank isn't the role that can afford to mess up, so it's clear why the player would want to play safe.

If you want to farm lore, do it with party finder or fc mates. Otherwise, be patient and enjoy your bonus.

As for the OP, keep practicing. The more practice and the more times you run it, you'll get a better feel for just how much you can pull.

And it's not about villainizing superior play. It's about villainizing impatience and the unfair demand placed on a new tank still trying to figure out the dungeon.