If a tank loses aggro, whose fault is it?

[Rhysati]

Wow the community in FFXIV is quite different than every other MMO out there. Everywhere else, this question has a VERY clear answer: If they DPS pulled aggro, the DPS messed up by not managing their threat. If the healer pulled aggro because DPS stands in the bad? That's DPS's fault. The only time it is the tank's fault is if the healer pulls aggro via healing the tank.

[Venoshock]

Wow the community in FFXIV is quite different than every other MMO out there. Everywhere else, this question has a VERY clear answer: If they DPS pulled aggro, the DPS messed up by not managing their threat. If the healer pulled aggro because DPS stands in the bad? That's DPS's fault. The only time it is the tank's fault is if the healer pulls aggro via healing the tank.

It's somewhat like that here except a lot of people have this misconception that it's ALWAYS the tanks fault no matter the situation which is false.

As AlexanderThorolund said, it's not a straight forward as that as there could be a number of factors leading to aggro loss.

[Adire]

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If the healer pulls aggro from the tank because they're having to heal the DPS so much, the healer is somewhat at fault too, and the tank is. WHM will be having to Shroud long before their heals should take aggro if they're healing that hard and if the tank has built adequate hate. SCH and AST don't really build much aggro to begin with even while spamming heals.

And it's not always the tank's fault the healer pulls aggro from healing. I've met many Regen happy healers before that pop it off as soon as the tank Shield Lobs/Unmends/Tomahawks at the beginning of a large pull and repeatedly re-add it even if it's clicked off. That's a really bad thing to do if you don't want to take a few hits as a healer and annoy the tank.

[Oscura]

Wow the community in FFXIV is quite different than every other MMO out there. Everywhere else, this question has a VERY clear answer: If they DPS pulled aggro, the DPS messed up by not managing their threat. If the healer pulled aggro because DPS stands in the bad? That's DPS's fault. The only time it is the tank's fault is if the healer pulls aggro via healing the tank.

"Managing their threat"?

This game has no method of managing threat outside of what, three skills?

Also, that would apply if it wasn't so pathetically easy to hold aggro in this game. I played tank for most of 2.0 and you could literally look away from pulls in dungeons, I doubt it's really changed that much. Most DPS can only "manage" threat by not doing damage. If a DPS has to stop doing damage because their tank can't hold hate, then it is 100% the tank's fault. If a DPS is doing too much damage for a tank to keep their hate up, they clearly outgear the tank too vastly or the tank is clearly not generating enough hate. There is no "management."

The answer from the community is so different because this game works differently.