Thread: Cutting number of abilities in 4.0

I wonder how they gonna cut the number of abilities for the tanks. According to Yoshi the number of actions at 70 is supposed to be like 60 is atm.
Though which would you take away (Yoshi said something about the least used skills)? I guess they can't really take away the 3 combos (hate, damage, utility).
on PLD I would think of tempered will first and then maybe circle of scorn (but I'd rather see an adjustment here) and maybe clemency (but this one is rather unique).
for war maybe fracture (especially with how useless it is as cross class and the gonna change cross skills anyway), same with mercy stroke. and then? steel cyclone or decimate?
and drk? ya... dark dance maybe or sole survivor, but again adjustments would be enough for those. otherweise they would need to take away damage skills.

so what do you think?

Inner Beast/Fell Cleave and Steel Cyclone/Decimate will be one button respectively. It will act like Equilibrium where the stance determines what effect the button will do. I imagine Bloodbath and Berserk will be combined seeing as how most tanks use it with Berserk to max out the healing output during their burst, though I would hate to lose 10 seconds of bloodbath. Maybe the tank stances will be combined as well? Hard to say as alot of the war's utility is really good with exception of Fortify which is mediocre at best and niche at worst.

Originally Posted by Marxam

Inner Beast/Fell Cleave and Steel Cyclone/Decimate will be one button respectively. It will act like Equilibrium where the stance determines what effect the button will do. I imagine Bloodbath and Berserk will be combined seeing as how most tanks use it with Berserk to max out the healing output during their burst, though I would hate to lose 10 seconds of bloodbath. Maybe the tank stances will be combined as well? Hard to say as alot of the war's utility is really good with exception of Fortify which is mediocre at best and niche at worst.

Pretty much this - it was already weird that they did this with Equilibrium but not the other actions. Getting rid of the finicky macros to manage this would be most welcome.

I think they'll shuffle the defensive CDs around a little so that all three tanks have something for any situation, while hopefully still retaining their areas of expertise. Each will probably get their own Provoke, as well. I'd like to see Foresight removed and replaced with another flat percentage-based cooldown, weaker than Vengeance but with a shorter cooldown.

They might cut down on our defensive cooldowns and reduce the cooldown on the ones we have left. Because most of what you mention aren't abilities, they're weaponskills.

I dont know skill names off the top of my head but they could cut down a skill in pld and drk combos

ex now you do 1,2,3 for enmity and 1,4,5, for mp/hp on drk
why not instead 1,2,3 or 1,4,3 where the second skill in the combo determines what 3 will do, implement the alternate finisher as a trait that upgrades the skill

this with the previously mention war stance effects would be a small way to clear a little room

It's possible that they may not cut and/or combine that many things. 61-70 could also primarily grant new traits. So something like the Inner Beast/Fell Cleave and Steel Cyclone idea means 61-70 Warriors get three traits and two actions, for example.

Originally Posted by EusisLandale

It's possible that they may not cut and/or combine that many things. 61-70 could also primarily grant new traits. So something like the Inner Beast/Fell Cleave and Steel Cyclone idea means 61-70 Warriors get three traits and two actions, for example.

They recently said (per Mr Happy's video) at the Euro fan fest that under used skills would be removed and their effects if any merged into other skills. They said their goal is for you to have the same number of skills at 70 as you have at 60 now.

Originally Posted by Khel

They recently said (per Mr Happy's video) at the Euro fan fest that under used skills would be removed and their effects if any merged into other skills. They said their goal is for you to have the same number of skills at 70 as you have at 60 now.

I wasn't really arguing against anything like that. Was just pointing out that, if there's not much to cut and combine, traits are another way to reach that "same number of skills at 70 as at 60" goal

Please remove dps dots on tanks that's my wish for the changes in the new combat review.

Originally Posted by Inosaska

Please remove dps dots on tanks that's my wish for the changes in the new combat review.

Out of everything that could be removed, why would you want to get rid of those?