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    Katana190's Avatar
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    Katana Azurite
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    Phantom
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    Warrior Lv 90

    Do YOU think we'll get a new Tank and/or Healer in 4.0? And vice versa.

    I've been wondering for a while now. Read plenty of threads and forums posts on reddit and the OF for months now, sometimes even GameFAQs and I've heard so many varied opinions about the upcoming speculated jobs about how x should be a dps and y should be a tank, and vice versa.

    I've heard people say they'll add only DPS, or they'll do the same route and add 3 jobs again like in Heavensward, or even add 4 new jobs in because we didn't get a job in the middle of patches. So I've created this thread so I can accumulate your guys opinions on this matter.

    So to get this straight this isn't to ask do you want a Tank or Healer in 4.0 but do you believe they'll actually add a new tank and/or healer in 4.0?
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    Lodestone Bait
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    I'm pretty sure they'll add at last either one tank or one healer, but not necessarily both. One DPS is a given, tho, seeing how popular they are over tanks/healers.

    So it probably depends on how many jobs they add total.
    2 jobs = Tank/Healer + DPS
    3 jobs = Tank + Healer + DPS or Tank/Healer + 2 DPS
    4 jobs = Tank + Healer + 2 DPS

    But that's only gut feeling.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    only add dps is kill duty finder, 1 meaby, more that 1 is shoot your feet, for tanks whe need one new to make more couples betwen the tanks and no more WAR+ DRK/PLD only.
    for healers i dont know.
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'd be go for a new crafting/gathering class, really. They could use some love as well.
    A new DPS is fine, too.
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Paladin Lv 92
    I'm hoping they've realized from Heavensward that it is not necessary to give us at least one of each role at the same time. Yes, if we got say, 3 new DPS classes and no tanks or healers, Duty Finder would be off balance for a while, but it would eventually return to normal. I'd rather have a temporarily unbalanced DF than have jobs that are permanently trying, and failing, to find their place in the game.

    Logically, I don't think there's room for a fourth healer, so I think we'll be getting a Tank and a DPS, or a Tank and 2 DPS. But SE doesn't always follow logic, so we'll see :P
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    I honestly think they will add only 1 job and maybe add second one in the middle of the 4.X patch cycle.
    It would be probably much easier to make more complex, original and balanced jobs this way.

    OT:
    Or they might also add one "test" hybrid that wouldn't probably get taken into raid teams but might be fun in casual content like dungeons, trials etc.
    I would also like if they added DPS first but considering we already got one more DPS (ninja) they will probably start off with tank or heal which is in my opininon a bad idea considering that AST is still being discriminated by many raid teams and many people are shocked when I tell them we are progressing A8s with AST..


    By the hybrid I meant many possibilities, it could be for example a buffer/debuffer, that would have extremely low dps but would offer so many debuffs that it would be worth it. By extremely low DPS I mean something on par with WHM while he would take DPS slot. Obviously this job would be extremely useless if in hand of unskilled player or someone who can't even be bothered to read tooltips, but that's the danger of more complex roles.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Dancer Lv 90
    There is more then enough dps as is now, but they will most likely add more....
    I believe another tank, possibly 2 will be introduced and also a healer.
    When 4.0 first hits they may introduce a new job and in later updates maybe 4.15 or so on they may introduce more.

    Also good points made about new crafting/gathering, gathering would especially be nice to have more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    There is more then enough dps as is now, but they will most likely add more....
    We have 3 healers, 3 tanks and 7 DPS. The typical party set up is one tank, one healer, one DPS.

    Concept-wise, it's not particularly out of whack. It's just that people are more interested in DPS and we end up having like 20% people playing tank and heal respectively with the remaining 60% flocking to DPS (according to last census).

    The fact that adventurer in need is consistently tank rather than healer however makes me think that those are just the numbers of people having leveled these jobs, rather than the active population. Might well be that is even more skewed towards DPS.
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    Last edited by Zojha; 08-03-2016 at 02:34 AM.

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    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    We have 3 healers, 3 tanks and 7 DPS. The typical party set up is one tank, one healer, one DPS.
    The typical party setup is one tank, one healer, two dps. So to use that as a balance, it should be 3 tanks, 3 healers, 6 dps. We're not short on dps classes.

    But having another tank or healer will only be a temporary fix to the choronic shortage for them, the same as before when Heavensward launched.

    That said, there are different types of dps: melee, ranged, and magic. We don't have that yet with tanks and healers, so the 1:1:2 ratio doesn't necessarily have to be enforced as far as having different classes go.
    Personally I'd like to see another ranged dps class. One who isn't a 'support' type.
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    Oooh, shiney...

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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Nope. My guess is they will add only two jobs: Red Mage and Samurai. And both of them will be DPS.
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