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  1. #111
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    How can you say this? when we have no clue if it would be tank,dps or healer or anything about how it would work in 14. If you are trying to base it on FFXI version then it's a waste of time as it will probably be completely different. For instance I absolutely loved BLM and SMN in 11 whereas in 14 I can't stand either.
    I can say this because that is how I feel. I never played XI, so I am not comparing anything against it. As far as being a change of pace, well, all the tanks are specifically melee fighters. Physical DPS are all pretty standard melee or ranged physical attackers, and all the casters are well known variants on the standard 'mage'. Dancer doesn't fit those existing archetypes, while I'm not sure exactly how it would be implemented in FFXIV, I think it would be a clear departure in style from existing melee and caster types.
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  2. #112
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RaphaelDDL View Post
    I was really hoping there would be SAM tank, RDM dps and DNC as healer (dance to aoe heal/buff/etc, whatever).
    Well before any new jobs were revealed, even before the fan festivals, Yoshi P noted that adding 3 new jobs all at once (and then having to balance them) proved to be a bit too much for them. He again said this at fan fest recently. It's an easy miss, especially as hype and speculation built up to the reveals, but expecting more than 2 was a bit far fetched. Easy, considering we got 3 in Heavensward, but if it was too much, why repeat that and have issues?

    I'll take 2 jobs done and balanced well over 3 just to satisfy numbers.
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  3. #113
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    ZhaneX's Avatar
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    Zana Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I'll take 2 jobs done and balanced well over 3 just to satisfy numbers.
    Of course I can only imagine the fallout that would ensue in the event that RDM and SAM aren't well-balanced...
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  4. #114
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    Oscura's Avatar
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Didn't and still don't care.

    Always knew it was two Monks in the opening so the Dancer thing held no weight to me. A dancer has never matched a Monk blow for blow in any game, and they don't fight barehanded.

    I actually hope 5.0 has DNC + a new tank, but for 4.0 my disappointment is zero. Dancer hype started because people misunderstood something and then just kept running with it.
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  5. #115
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'm more disappointed that the Spiderman shirt actually meant Sam Raimi and not BLU. Would have like to have seen 3 or 4 jobs:

    -BLU tank
    -DNC healer
    -RDM (and SAM dps)
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  6. #116
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    S'neha Qimi
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I'd say I'm pretty disappointed, but to be perfectly frank? I'm *used* to being disappointed by now about jobs and when we get them. For ages the dev team was talking ninja AND guns and I was so ready for guns! Then it turned into a 'lol just kidding, y'all get ninja now, gotta wait for guns." And I had zero interest in ninja. And then musketeer didn't materialize and we got the bleh that is machinist. So yeah. I watched the trailer, I saw the dancing in red and the weapon fly out of the sleeve and my thought was WHOO! We are back to using battle silks for dancer a la FFT!

    I should have known better.

    I do feel that Square had a great opportunity here to introduce dancer and it would have made every bit of sense. The Corpse Brigade (out of Ala Mhigo, remember?) out in S. Than are dubbed Fistdancer, Swordancer, and Firedancer. It would make sense in that context for Ala Mhigo to have combatant dancers and mesh other disciplines with it as well.

    So yeah. I'm disappointed no dancer. I'm not surprised that I'm disappointed yet again. At least with them adding two new dps jobs, me and the hubs can offer dungeon runs for the poor sods leveling them as a tank/heals team.
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  7. #117
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    Deedlit Blanchimont
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    As one who has trained in traditional Kung Fu, which includes practicing forms, I never saw the girl as anything but a monk. That said, while I was somewhat hoping to see Dancer in, I have no particular high or low feelings about it, because what I cared about most is that I'm finally getting Red Mage.
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  8. #118
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    Len's Avatar
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    Len Orlan
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TINMRGd_HE

    I found a video that explains everything that you will ever need to know about how I feel about Dancer not being added.
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  9. #119
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    The underwater city was unnamed, Kugane was the city where the Samurai was shown.

    While the trailer itself didn't show anything about Doma, it was one of the areas discussed in the Keynote itself, complete with screenshots. It did not look "Burned to the Ground" at all. Why? Maybe because time has passed and it's far more likely that the Garlean occupation force would repair and repurpose the city than just leave it a smoldering ruin.
    I see, I didn't attend the fanfes, so I based it off the trailer, and the enlarged map someone posted. Thanks for the information andu correction.
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  10. #120
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I am indifferent, because i knew from the beginning that there was not going to be a dancer. From the moment the teaser launched and people were screaming about the dancer being revealed in the trailer. I tried to explain that she was not a dancer, and she using the same fighting style as him, and that she was practicing her forms before she initiated combat.

    And people retorted with "the base class must be pugilist". Even though they specifically stated that they were no longer doing base classes, and they were certainly not going to have two jobs tied to the same base class again.

    People clamoured about how she had a blade sheathed in her dress and that must be the DNC weapon, even though NPCs get stuff we don't all the time, and a cinematic is nothing to base actual gameplay mechanics on.

    People like to revel in their denial, rather than observe the facts as they are presented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    But who knows, Dancer may be added in the middle or after Stormblood's main story is over like how Ninja was added in A Realn Reborn.
    They only did that for ninja because the job was not going to be ready for launch, and rather than delay the launch of the game based on one job, they decided to add it later.
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