Thread: PLEASE do NOT allow level skipping in 4.0

My take on the job potion is, I don't think anybody truly learns their job until they have their skill set completely unlocked. The faster you unlock your skills, the faster you can start learning your job properly. Not to mention jump potions are a godsend to people with alts. I can't wait for jump potions to be available.

Originally Posted by szalkerous

Level skipping does not force people to learn their classes

Leveling normally doesn't do this either...

Originally Posted by SDaemon

Leveling normally doesn't do this either...

Thank you I was gonna say this. People need to stop thinking that level potion will stop that person learning their job.

Like you said levelling doesn't ether it all depends on the individual player and how much they really want to truly learn their job.


People need to stop complaining about the level skipping potion and move on.

your too late pork chop our god yoshi p has Decreed that jump potions are in come 4.0-4.1 with different types now these talks can be put to rest no one can question yoshi p's will now Muwahahahaha!!!! minority lost majority wins they gotta look at the bigger picture new players aren't going to be able to enjoy playing with friends if they are 6 years behind in content if they wanna see the story then they can make an alt and level the normal way many mmo's have added this at one point or another same with those yet to do it gotta stay with the times.

Originally Posted by Blackbird1

your too late pork chop our god yoshi p has Decreed that jump potions are in come 4.0-4.1 with different types now these talks can be put to rest no one can question yoshi p's will now Muwahahahaha!!!! minority lost majority wins they gotta look at the bigger picture new players aren't going to be able to enjoy playing with friends if they are 6 years behind in content if they wanna see the story then they can make an alt and level the normal way many mmo's have added this at one point or another same with those yet to do it gotta stay with the times.

A perfect example of how appealing to the masses has shredded the quality of MMOs over the past 10 years or so.

Originally Posted by Kaedan

Umm... yeah. SE can sell any item in the game for real money if they want. As long as there is a way to obtain it by simply playing the game and not having to buy it, then it's not P2W. The sole exception being that if the time required to acquire it without real money is irrationally or ridiculously long, disproportionate to the cost.

No, it is not. That is the objectively false, irrational definition used by people who try to claim that any sort of cash shop at all is P2W. Flipping your own statement around on you, by your incorrect definition, anything sold in the cash shop at all is P2W. Having a style someone else doesn't or a mount or dye someone else doesn't is an advantage.

P2W requires that whatever you're buying is an advantage that can only be obtained by spending real money. Mean you have to PAY to get the advantage. Again, the exception being if the acquisition time is highly disproportionate to the real money cost.

Feel free to cling to your definition if you wish. I have no interest in arguing with you about it. You are, however, incorrect. You actually tripped over your own feet a bit claiming that my definition is used by people arguing against any sort of cash shop. What it's used for - successfully, I might add - is convincing game companies like Square Enix that cash shops should be limited to things like mounts, minions, Fantasia potions, and... oh, yeah, exactly what they've limited the Mog Station to for quite some time now. Leveling potions enter into a bit more of a grey area, but it's a light grey. It's very marginal P2W, and they can argue that it's beneficial for newer players or experienced players wanting to level a second job who don't need to learn how to play.

About all your ranting has accomplished is conveying the distinct impression that you enjoy partaking of small P2W advantages, and feel insecure about it in the court of public opinion. Usually the people who freak out the loudest about reasonable statements like mine are those who are a bit insecure about their own behaviour.