Charging for runs.

[Aerowaffle]

Don't really get it. How does someone charging for a run have any impact on anyone? If you don't want to pay for a tank's services, then don't, just queue as normal?

Isn't it fairly standard economics, whenever there is a demand for something, eg tank services, a market is created for people to supply it?

I believe people are worried that Tanks will now be selling their runs as a method of punishing DPS players. And while some people are trying to send a message to SE this way, I believe most people that would be selling runs will be because the demand will be so high that it will actually be possible (and lucrative).

[Silica-chan]

I'm not sure that there is such a huge market for it but I might be wrong.
Idk about you guys but I have tanks/heals in my friendslist, Linkshells and there are some in FCs too so go out there make some friends and you are good to go.

[Rinari]

I don't think anyone is talking about punishing DPS players. As others mentioned, incentivizing tanks with some extra gil would pull in tanks that otherwise would not be running at all. If anything, charging for runs is helping DPS by bringing in more tanks and taking DPS out of the que.... so shorter ques for those that don't pay and more tanks tanking overall. The 'adventurer in need' bonus already does this. I do my leveling roulette ever day because I get ~10k gil, 2.5k GC seals (another 40k gil afte selling mats), and some tomes I'm putting towards anima weapon. Without that bonus, I'd be doing other things more valuable to me (expert dungeons, frontlines, working on craft/gather, ect).

I'm not sure that there is such a huge market for it but I might be wrong.
Idk about you guys but I have tanks/heals in my friendslist, Linkshells and there are some in FCs too so go out there make some friends and you are good to go.

This! Unless the DPS ques get really crazy, the market for paid runs will be small. Most people prioritize running with their friends. Selling runs seems like a high drama activity with at best, modest pay. If I need gil, I'll run maps with friends, solo some choice lv 50 dungeons for seals and materials, or do some mining... all of which likely has a higher payoff with lower stress. I'd rather run dungeons with friends, or at least without the pressure of being hired help!

I don't begrudge any tanks selling their services there. Everyone has a right to find their gil making niches in the game. I'd even be a little tempted if the gil reward went up to 200k+, but running for friends would still come first.

[XSamsaraLotusX]

So how many of this tanks will you ask to not play the new jobs to help you?

[Celef]

Okay, I sort of understand it. But keep this in mind, the different DPS classes tend to play extremely different depending on which sub category they are in.

A Monk, for example, plays extremely different than a BLM. Much more than say, the difference between a SCH and a AST.

True, but at least DD have the possibility to try a new gameplay while we don't ^^"

I believe people are worried that Tanks will now be selling their runs as a method of punishing DPS players. And while some people are trying to send a message to SE this way, I believe most people that would be selling runs will be because the demand will be so high that it will actually be possible (and lucrative).

Don't know about the others but it's exactly how I see this. Don't really care about the money (like I said, I would do it for free anyway) but if the queues get to 1h for DPS and they are "forced" to pay, they will complain too and SE will, eventually, get the message that it was not a good idea to add 2 more jobs to an already heavy representated population of players.
I mean....you just need to play the game to realise that queues are already long for DPS how can you possibly think that adding 2 more of them won't have a negative impact on the game ? ^^"

[Aerowaffle]

True, but at least DD have the possibility to try a new gameplay while we don't ^^"

A MCH or BRD main may not like the idea of playing a melee or caster DPS. So this player would get no satisfaction from SAM or RedMage (and they would need to suffer through the DPS queues). Like I said, dps is split into different categories that differ greatly from each other. Don't assume that every DPS player likes all the different styles of DPS.

[ADVSS]

A MCH or BRD main may not like the idea of playing a melee or caster DPS. So this player would get no satisfaction from SAM or RedMage (and they would need to suffer through the DPS queues). Like I said, dps is split into different categories that differ greatly from each other. Don't assume that every DPS player likes all the different styles of DPS.

This is why theyd be wise to take advantage of the tank/healer mains who are just going to start msq instead of levelling a brand new dps job. It would be smart if dps mains would just push story. Last time, it took a week to get drk up to the expansion. It
ll be the same for SAM/RDM. So I will probably zerg on my smn till msq is done. Then work on RDM where at least i have armory bonus(and end game gear)
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