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  1. #111
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    Celef's Avatar
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    You offer a fair point, they could be going out of their way and you might consider the gil a fair compensation. I still can't help but see it as taking advantage of a situation nobody wanted to be in. And were it tanks already at 70 that'd be something, but people leveling tanks and healers alongside also doing this will just make things worse.
    I think you forget something, we (tank and healer) do not get any new jobs (considering some of us are allergic to DPS) meaning while you DPS gets to enjoy a new system, we on the other hand, won't at least for next expansion.
    Not saying we won't have fun, but while DPS are exoted by the new possibility they get, we know nothing will change for us so....making a few gils is a little compensation IMO

    See it as a "reason" to connect everyday knowing we'll keep doing the same things we've done for the past 2 years ^^"
    For you it will be all new gameplay, for us....

    Quote Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX View Post
    Greed??
    So selling crafts for 10m or even 1m isoik but asking 10k-100k for a msq dungeon is wrong?
    My lazy and "stingy" (not sure of the word) Lala agrees with that statement ^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  2. #112
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    Belhi's Avatar
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Well people could always refuse to pay tanks for dungeon runs this amount of greed shoulndt be encouraged luckily there are many other forms of levelling availible to people in this game.
    Still going to have to do MSQ dungeons eventually unless your planning not to do the MSQ as a dps.

    Honestly I don't think any tank being turned down will be that bothered. The dps is the one who is going to have to wait in long queues. The tank or healer will be in any dungeon they need almost instantly.
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  3. #113
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Welp what a nice community we have. And seeing how some called themselves carebears and are now wanting to sell that too. Thankfully I have good friends and one is a great tank.
    The only legitimate reason to say that this is like crafting is, when people will go towards you and ask you if you want to tank a dungeon for them that you dont even want to run. But if you plan to take Gil for a dungeon you would run anyway..well you can try and probably will find someone but it makes you look greedy in my eyes.

    Hmm time to make a deal as a DD too. If you want to have great DPS from me please pay. I mean I am only obligated to DPS at all, not how much right? /Joke

    (Oh you also wont hurt SE with such actions, the only ones that you will punish with those are people without friends that had nothing to do with the jobs we get. Heck maybe some might even say that they find the community really toxic and will leave the game behind.)

    Do whatever you want, just dont argue about it like its good for the community or something. And also dont forget that not every DD will have an interest in the new jobs so they also dont get new things..
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  4. #114
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    ADVSS's Avatar
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    but what if rdm or sam get utilitis that help tanks or healers jobs get easier? It might actually be a win for all the roles. That dps joke was hillarious too, but I still find nothing wrong with charging for runs. if the sell is reasonable even i might consider it.
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  5. #115
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    It's not some war between the trinity. If people are willing to pay for a service, and those that can provide it find the price acceptable, then there will be a market.

    If no one is willing to pay, there will be no market. It really is that simple.
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  6. #116
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    Minnel Mimi
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nghthawk View Post
    I will prob just toss the dungeon into PF with a statement "Tipping is optional", or may invite people in the zone that are at that stage as well or que solo. Hope the tanks have a healer in their back pocket or they to might have a wait in que as well.
    Easy... get a healer from your fc willing to do merc runs. Now you two are duos, splitting the proft 50:50
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  7. #117
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    Aerowaffle's Avatar
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    I think you forget something, we (tank and healer) do not get any new jobs (considering some of us are allergic to DPS) meaning while you DPS gets to enjoy a new system, we on the other hand, won't at least for next expansion.
    Not saying we won't have fun, but while DPS are exoted by the new possibility they get, we know nothing will change for us so....making a few gils is a little compensation IMO
    Hold on now.

    While I believe it to be fine for players to try and sell queues as their tank or healer, you make it sound like each character is stuck to one role of the trinity. Characters that only have a high lvl DPS still have the capability to play and level a tank or healer, and the other two roles have similar choices. This isn't WoW, where your character may be stuck with only certain roles.

    A small argument may be made that people with a high level DPS job have a possibility of sharing more gear with other DPS jobs, but that's pretty trivial when you consider that it's very easy to get decent gear for the MSQ.

    No, it's not just the DPS-centered players getting a new job, everybody is getting two more dps jobs they may play as.
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  8. #118
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Welp what a nice community we have. And seeing how some called themselves carebears and are now wanting to sell that too. Thankfully I have good friends and one is a great tank.
    The only legitimate reason to say that this is like crafting is, when people will go towards you and ask you if you want to tank a dungeon for them that you dont even want to run. But if you plan to take Gil for a dungeon you would run anyway..well you can try and probably will find someone but it makes you look greedy in my eyes.

    Hmm time to make a deal as a DD too. If you want to have great DPS from me please pay. I mean I am only obligated to DPS at all, not how much right? /Joke

    (Oh you also wont hurt SE with such actions, the only ones that you will punish with those are people without friends that had nothing to do with the jobs we get. Heck maybe some might even say that they find the community really toxic and will leave the game behind.)

    Do whatever you want, just dont argue about it like its good for the community or something. And also dont forget that not every DD will have an interest in the new jobs so they also dont get new things..
    I'm going to be running dungeons for my FC and probably no one else because really I will probably have very little reason to. If I was going to join in on the who selling runs thing it would only be for dungeon runs I wouldn't be doing otherwise.

    I don't think this is an issue and frankly I don't think there is any reason for people to be offended by it. Its not like tanks or healers which chose to sell runs are forcing you to pay them. You can just wait the queue out or find a friend or FC member to run with. People doing the MSQ as a tank or healer really won't be having many reasons to repeatedly run the levelling dungeons. Most of their EXP will be coming from the MSQ quests.
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  9. #119
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Freerider View Post
    So with samurai and red mage coming how reasonable would charging gil to level those dps through content as a tank be? Is there any rules against that specifically is what I'm asking because if not I dusting off my heavy armor for stormblood.
    Its basicly the same as getting paid gil to carry someone and help them clear a EX trial or Raid and I have never seen SE say anything bad about it. Its a free market, charge how much you want and if they agree, they will pay otherwise discuss about a price.
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  10. #120
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    XSamsaraLotusX's Avatar
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    Samsara Lotus
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I am greedy tnx
    As for ask for payment for runs as dps go and do it.
    I cant hurt se like this i know its not to hurt anyone but to fell my greed when i can.
    Dos will have fun playing new job i will have fun taking gil from them
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