[DEV Question] Why is this allowed?

[JunseiKei]

It would be nice to have a minimum ilevel required on any one gear for any non-leveling dungeon. Not to be confused with the minimum average ilevel we have right now. Example, A9 is an average ilevel of 230. Instead, have a minimum ilevel of 230 (Mhach / lore), 220 (prototype Midan) or even 200 (artifact-easily obtained through hunts and daily hunt bills) on every piece of gear.

Also, as much as I hate to say it, it would really be nice to lock the accessories to those particular classes. STR accessories to [melee] DoW, VIT to [tank] DoW, DEX to ['agile'] DoW, INT to [caster] DoM, and MND to [healer] DoM. This might be annoying to those spiritbonding (which I haven't seen done in eons currently), and may even limit options for glamour and PvP. It's worth it. The game isn't balanced around PvP nor how pretty you look. There are better ways to spiritbond rather than through dungeons, too. If you're lacking HP for PvE, like for raids, you have VIT melding as well as the option to move around main stat points.

Idk what the issue is. That guy was using a Novus weapon. He was likely light farming.

Nothing 3.0 gives light for 2.0 anymore than 2.0 gives light for 3.0. For 2.0 light farming, you are regulated to farming 2.X content for light. For 3.0, you're regulated to 3.X light farming.

[Serilda]

STR accessories to [melee] DoW, VIT to [tank] DoW, DEX to ['agile'] DoW, INT to [caster] DoM, and MND to [healer] DoM. This might be annoying to those spiritbonding (which I haven't seen done in eons currently), and may even limit options for glamour and PvP. It's worth it. The game isn't balanced around PvP nor how pretty you look.

I strongly disagree. Throwing the ability to customise our builds in PVP (and to a lesser extent in very specific PVE/glamour situations) aside just to cater to a handful of people playing with the wrong accessories feels like a bad trade. How often does it happen? I've never noticed anyone doing it whereas I've used the 'wrong' accessories for perfectly legitimate, non-ilvl-cheating reasons numerous times. Though most content is so easy that I genuinely wouldn't notice someone being carried (a separate issue...)

[Culfinrandir]

So I'm cheating the system' if I'm wearing 250 crafted gear in DUNGEONS?

Really?

Ok.

The epicness of this fail will go down in forum history. *sniggers*

[Callinon]

The problem with changing from an average item level to some kind of weighted system or requiring a certain ilvl weapon to participate in content is: what limit do you set? Who gets to choose?

You could say that SE gets to choose, but SE chose this and you're not satisfied. There was another thread a few weeks ago where someone was saying that an i230 weapon should be required to queue for expert roulettes. I'm sure if you asked 20 different people what the requirements should be for something like this, you'd end up with 20 different and mutually-exclusive answers.

Fact of the matter is this was probably just an absentminded mistake by the player in question and not something they were doing maliciously. You also cleared the fight so it couldn't have had THAT much of an impact on you. Had you wiped due to failing a dps check, someone might have pointed this out to the guy, he'd say "woops, my bad" and fix it because he probably just didn't realize what he was doing there.

[Ama_Hamada]

The problem with changing from an average item level to some kind of weighted system or requiring a certain ilvl weapon to participate in content is: what limit do you set? Who gets to choose?You could say that SE gets to choose, but SE chose this and you're not satisfied. There was another thread a few weeks ago where someone was saying that an i230 weapon should be required to queue for expert roulettes. I'm sure if you asked 20 different people what the requirements should be for something like this, you'd end up with 20 different and mutually-exclusive answers.

Fact of the matter is this was probably just an absentminded mistake by the player in question and not something they were doing maliciously. You also cleared the fight so it couldn't have had THAT much of an impact on you. Had you wiped due to failing a dps check, someone might have pointed this out to the guy, he'd say "woops, my bad" and fix it because he probably just didn't realize what he was doing there.

It should be a weighed system for figuring out the true average. If SE says you need 230 to enter something you NEED 230+ weapon. The people that decide the weighs are the same people that give a min entry to begin with.

[Callinon]

It should be a weighed system for figuring out the true average. If SE says you need 230 to enter something you NEED 230+ weapon. The people that decide the weighs are the same people that give a min entry to begin with.

Largely that's the duty finder doing that. So again you're asking for an automated system different than the automated system we currently have.

You also used the terms "weighted system" and "true average" in the same sentence. The system right now finds the true average as determined by math. Seriously, you can do the math yourself, you'll get the same number the game does. You're asking for different slots to be weighted differently, so you're no longer asking for a true average, you're asking for a weighted average.

[Ama_Hamada]

Largely that's the duty finder doing that. So again you're asking for an automated system different than the automated system we currently have.

You also used the terms "weighted system" and "true average" in the same sentence. The system right now finds the true average as determined by math. Seriously, you can do the math yourself, you'll get the same number the game does. You're asking for different slots to be weighted differently, so you're no longer asking for a true average, you're asking for a weighted average.

No you do not. The gear is weighed differently stat wise, your true average should reflect this. I do not appreciate the semantics, as it should be clear what I mean, and I hope it does now.

[Callinon]

No you do not. The gear is weighed differently stat wise, your true average should reflect this. I do not appreciate the semantics, as it should be clear what I mean, and I hope it does now.

Whether you appreciate it or not, words have meanings and you should use the right ones if you want to communicate effectively and be understood.

You've also decided that math just isn't quite good enough to do this job, so something else is going to have to do it. Never mind the fact that the existing system works fine and produces successful parties (including the one in the OP) far FAR more often than it doesn't.

[odintius]

I see it a different way if you're able too clear it at a decent pace still with a blm using that weapon and have decent gear it shows to me dungeon are really just that simple. It would have been more fun to see if a healer was doing this however, but if blm was using 230+ maybe shave off a couple minutes.

[LalaRu]

Hi people, sorry but my computer seems broken and my eyes too, I'm sure I was reading of a topic about someone complaining he was able to end a duty.