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    Player Clethoria's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    So....if you got a tank like this ^ in your DF party when you loaded into a dungeon.

    Would you be upset?
    Would you leave?
    Would you vote kick?
    Would you be mad they wasted your time?

    Seriously curious. If you say Yes to ANY of those, you are a hypocrite.
    I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know. In fact, the only time I ever use DF is if I can't get a full party with friends or I'm running PotD/PVP. I practice what I preach and will almost always have a personal, full augmented tank and or healer at my side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know.
    So...you wouldn't notice if a tank had less than a third of their usual HP and was dying in like 3 hits due to low armor?

    That's "a tad" oblivious.
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    Player Clethoria's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    So...you wouldn't notice if a tank had less than a third of their usual HP and was dying in like 3 hits due to low armor?

    That's "a tad" oblivious.
    No, I dont have this problem at all. I ask to be catered to, and I receive because, as I've said, I almost always have a personal tank and or healer at hand. If I can get neither, Party Finder. Why should I have to deal with problems that can easily be avoided? Because I really don't think I should.

    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    I don't deny I do, difference between me and you is I know what I'm talking about you clearly do not.
    Oh so we don't just wanna get by and play the game? Only people who wanna cheese a system do that... Ofc that makes perfect sense... I do wonder though do you offer this advice to the players who do cheese the system or do you just blame th rest of us for being meanies? I'm guessing the latter.



    Mhmm sure I'm the one who brought it up :P
    Sure, call me passive aggressive and retaliate with full snark. I speak on experience and I've experienced enough to know that ragequitting doesn't have to be a thing if you take the strides to avoid it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    Sure, call me passive aggressive and retaliate with full snark. I speak on experience and I've experienced enough to know that ragequitting doesn't have to be a thing if you take the strides to avoid it.
    No you go a step further and say bad behaviour and disregard for others you may come across is ok coz it's their own fault for daring to do a roulette/trial/raid without a full group >.>

    Sure call me pointing exactly what you said you didn't do as "snark" xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    And so what if I do white knight? I'll gladly defend players who just want to get by and enjoy the game they paid for. "But it wastes other people's time" some will argue. Simple solution, make friends and stop dealing with people you dont like.
    I rest my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    No you go a step further and say bad behaviour and disregard for others you may come across is ok coz it's their own fault for daring to do a roulette/trial/raid without a full group >.>
    You gonna continue that? (oh apparently you did) Cross Party Finder makes it easier than ever to get what you want. So the first run didn't work out, ok. But I know the 2nd will if it gets some use and you, the player, makes an effort to say "Ok I want this and that to do a thing."
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    Last edited by Clethoria; 02-27-2017 at 02:25 AM. Reason: jeez slow down with the edits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    You gonna continue that? Cross Party Finder makes it easier than ever to get what you want. So the first run didn't work out, ok. But I know the 2nd will if it gets some use and you, the player, makes an effort to say "Ok I want this and that to do a thing."
    "Lf group for Roulette, want DRG wearing strength acessories, Healer wearing MND acessories, Tank wearing Fending acessories". None of these things need to be said... It's basic practice and logic. Can still get a DRG wearing Fending accessories a healer wearing INT ones in this group, it's cool though coz the game lets them and they pay for their game... Something the rest of us don't do....

    Am not continuing anything that is your stance on this from your own posts. Don't like it then that's not my problem, it's yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know. In fact, the only time I ever use DF is if I can't get a full party with friends or I'm running PotD/PVP. I practice what I preach and will almost always have a personal, full augmented tank and or healer at my side.
    So... you're basically just closing your eyes and look the other way when it comes to problems like this? And when someone encounters such a tank/healer/dps its their fault for not having their pocket tank/healer/dps and just wanting to play and enjoy the game?
    This is a great attitude, really...

    I always like to ask myself the question: Would a person with gear/skill like that get past this dungeon/boss in a single-player game? If not, what would they do? Get better gear? Get better at the game? Quit the game? Ask a friend to do it for them? If anything, they would HAVE to do something because they couldnt progress and the game is telling them that - here, you've got up to 23 other people carrying your ass, why is that okay?
    We NEED the game telling people that its not - even a fluffy little themepark needs some rules.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know. In fact, the only time I ever use DF is if I can't get a full party with friends or I'm running PotD/PVP. I practice what I preach and will almost always have a personal, full augmented tank and or healer at my side.
    There would be red flags pointing to a potential bad run before you even look at the gear they're wearing. "Tanks HP is lower than a Level 50 tank. That's odd," would be your first thought if you looked at the party list. If you don't look at it, or have it hidden, then your only clue after that would be how fast the tank dies (or if someone else in the party notices and mentions it). If you still don't check their gear, then I don't know what to tell you (and if you defend the tank in crafting gear for 'playing how they want,' then you're being a part of the problem for enabling them).
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    Last edited by Nestama; 02-27-2017 at 05:27 AM.