[DEV Question] Why is this allowed?

[Miste]

/sigh
No, I'm not denying. There is a flaw between ilvl requirement and the impact of the weapon.

/sigh

I never said you were denying the flaw in the ilevel requirement and impact of the weapon....you are reading before responding right?

flaws in the DF system

acknowledging the DF system is flawed

you deny the DF flaw even exists which really makes no sense at this point and is the main reason for my recent responses to you.

^I said you were denying the flaws in the DF system. All my recent responses have been about THAT; nothing about the weighting idea of yours

If the game decided that this BLM was able to enter, then it's not a problem that he's here in that state.

^Initial statement you made denying the problems with the DF system. All my recent responses to you goes back to this quote from you. You still haven't responded about why you think that is an okay mentality to have even with all the evidence I've given you on why it isn't okay.

My issue was you claiming "if the game lets you enter it's not a problem"

^Me telling you this is the issue I have with your post, not your weighting idea or anything to do with the ilevel weights at all actually.

Just because the game lets you queue doesn't mean there are no flaws with the DF system.

^Showed you, with a screenshot, the scenario I described proving the flaw in the DF system that would let a tank queue while in a state that is completely unable to tank the content at all.

So yeah please point out where I said you denied the ilevel and weapon impact because that isn't what I've been talking about this whole time <.<
I've been talking about you saying that special statement you made "if the game decided you can enter, then it's not a problem"

You got pouty because you didn't get the perfect party you wanted, Yes, you do deserve the penalty.

So....if you got a tank like this ^ in your DF party when you loaded into a dungeon.

Would you be upset?
Would you leave?
Would you vote kick?
Would you be mad they wasted your time?

Seriously curious. If you say Yes to ANY of those, you are a hypocrite.

[Clethoria]

So....if you got a tank like this ^ in your DF party when you loaded into a dungeon.

Would you be upset?
Would you leave?
Would you vote kick?
Would you be mad they wasted your time?

Seriously curious. If you say Yes to ANY of those, you are a hypocrite.

I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know. In fact, the only time I ever use DF is if I can't get a full party with friends or I'm running PotD/PVP. I practice what I preach and will almost always have a personal, full augmented tank and or healer at my side.

[Zojha]

I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know.

So...you wouldn't notice if a tank had less than a third of their usual HP and was dying in like 3 hits due to low armor?

That's "a tad" oblivious.

[Clethoria]

So...you wouldn't notice if a tank had less than a third of their usual HP and was dying in like 3 hits due to low armor?

That's "a tad" oblivious.

No, I dont have this problem at all. I ask to be catered to, and I receive because, as I've said, I almost always have a personal tank and or healer at hand. If I can get neither, Party Finder. Why should I have to deal with problems that can easily be avoided? Because I really don't think I should.

I don't deny I do, difference between me and you is I know what I'm talking about you clearly do not.
Oh so we don't just wanna get by and play the game? Only people who wanna cheese a system do that... Ofc that makes perfect sense... I do wonder though do you offer this advice to the players who do cheese the system or do you just blame th rest of us for being meanies? I'm guessing the latter.



Mhmm sure I'm the one who brought it up :P

Sure, call me passive aggressive and retaliate with full snark. I speak on experience and I've experienced enough to know that ragequitting doesn't have to be a thing if you take the strides to avoid it.

[Underdog2204]

Sure, call me passive aggressive and retaliate with full snark. I speak on experience and I've experienced enough to know that ragequitting doesn't have to be a thing if you take the strides to avoid it.

No you go a step further and say bad behaviour and disregard for others you may come across is ok coz it's their own fault for daring to do a roulette/trial/raid without a full group >.>

Sure call me pointing exactly what you said you didn't do as "snark" xD

And so what if I do white knight? I'll gladly defend players who just want to get by and enjoy the game they paid for. "But it wastes other people's time" some will argue. Simple solution, make friends and stop dealing with people you dont like.

I rest my case.

[Clethoria]

No you go a step further and say bad behaviour and disregard for others you may come across is ok coz it's their own fault for daring to do a roulette/trial/raid without a full group >.>

You gonna continue that? (oh apparently you did) Cross Party Finder makes it easier than ever to get what you want. So the first run didn't work out, ok. But I know the 2nd will if it gets some use and you, the player, makes an effort to say "Ok I want this and that to do a thing."

[Underdog2204]

You gonna continue that? Cross Party Finder makes it easier than ever to get what you want. So the first run didn't work out, ok. But I know the 2nd will if it gets some use and you, the player, makes an effort to say "Ok I want this and that to do a thing."

"Lf group for Roulette, want DRG wearing strength acessories, Healer wearing MND acessories, Tank wearing Fending acessories". None of these things need to be said... It's basic practice and logic. Can still get a DRG wearing Fending accessories a healer wearing INT ones in this group, it's cool though coz the game lets them and they pay for their game... Something the rest of us don't do....

Am not continuing anything that is your stance on this from your own posts. Don't like it then that's not my problem, it's yours.

[Vidu]

I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know. In fact, the only time I ever use DF is if I can't get a full party with friends or I'm running PotD/PVP. I practice what I preach and will almost always have a personal, full augmented tank and or healer at my side.

So... you're basically just closing your eyes and look the other way when it comes to problems like this? And when someone encounters such a tank/healer/dps its their fault for not having their pocket tank/healer/dps and just wanting to play and enjoy the game?
This is a great attitude, really...

I always like to ask myself the question: Would a person with gear/skill like that get past this dungeon/boss in a single-player game? If not, what would they do? Get better gear? Get better at the game? Quit the game? Ask a friend to do it for them? If anything, they would HAVE to do something because they couldnt progress and the game is telling them that - here, you've got up to 23 other people carrying your ass, why is that okay?
We NEED the game telling people that its not - even a fluffy little themepark needs some rules.

[Nestama]

I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know. In fact, the only time I ever use DF is if I can't get a full party with friends or I'm running PotD/PVP. I practice what I preach and will almost always have a personal, full augmented tank and or healer at my side.

There would be red flags pointing to a potential bad run before you even look at the gear they're wearing. "Tanks HP is lower than a Level 50 tank. That's odd," would be your first thought if you looked at the party list. If you don't look at it, or have it hidden, then your only clue after that would be how fast the tank dies (or if someone else in the party notices and mentions it). If you still don't check their gear, then I don't know what to tell you (and if you defend the tank in crafting gear for 'playing how they want,' then you're being a part of the problem for enabling them).

[Ama_Hamada]

Would you be upset?
Would you leave?
Would you vote kick?
Would you be mad they wasted your time?

Seriously curious. If you say Yes to ANY of those, you are a hypocrite.

There is no way I be healing that, vote kick would take place right at the 5 min mark or id end up leaving. Also I believe I shouldn't HAVE TO WAIT 5 mins to kick something like that, maybe just make a better system for gear checking? Also I assume you rejected the queue or fixed gear on entry? lamo

Also Clethoria yes you are being passive-aggressive and being offensive to people (so far)

I dont look at other people's gear like that so I wouldn't know. In fact, the only time I ever use DF is if I can't get a full party with friends or I'm running PotD/PVP. I practice what I preach and will almost always have a personal, full augmented tank and or healer at my side.

You should notice that on the first pull without checking gear. Then again I am an aware person as a healer. Then again I guess it takes wiping a few times for you to.