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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    So, you don't like it, that's why it needs to change, despite that's how SE purposely made the system for balancing.
    Really? In an entire thread where everyone is moaning about how calculating average item level isn't good enough for entry into DF parties? This is what you're going with here?

    SE purposely made average item level the determining factor for DF entry. But because you don't like it, it has to change.

    Am I doing it right?
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Really? In an entire thread where everyone is moaning about how calculating average item level isn't good enough for entry into DF parties? This is what you're going with here?

    SE purposely made average item level the determining factor for DF entry. But because you don't like it, it has to change.

    Am I doing it right?
    I asked why you said it needed to change while saying WD is a stat capper and brings balance to the game. You said the difference between WD and main stat is nuts and no stat should be worth as high as 25 times the next, which equates to.... you... don't like it...? I'm sory, that's all I was able to infer.

    Also, the thread is pointing out how people are able to bypass an average item level system and still severely hinder the party or downright make it impossible, as per Miste's example here. Discussed solutions are not perfect, but are in many ways better than what we have now, as it's exploitable.

    So, no, you're doing it wrong.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Ama Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Really? In an entire thread where everyone is moaning about how calculating average item level isn't good enough for entry into DF parties? This is what you're going with here?

    SE purposely made average item level the determining factor for DF entry. But because you don't like it, it has to change.

    Am I doing it right?
    You are not doing it right. There is an issue here and that issue is exploiting the system to a point where people entering dungeons they are not ready for. I like to know why you have a habit of going to extremes to prove a non-existent point to fight what people are asking to change?

    Not only does average needs to be met but each slot should have a minimum .
    example (since we found weighed average can still be exploited)
    current expert
    Entry requirements:
    weapon 220+
    all other slots 200+
    average level 230

    it is not asking for a lot, nd ALL as in EVERY DF needs this

    Sastasha:
    all slots level 1+
    weapon 10+
    average, level 8

    Anything under that, even in sastasha is not functional. I met a tank that was in level 1-5 gear and he was too hard to heal, even for me tying to full time it. It i way too stressful and I should not suffer a 30 min cooldown dealing with BS because people do it because they are allowed to.

    We are not asking for stricter requirements to sound elitists, we are asking for higher requirements so people can function.
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    Yui Oshima
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    You know what I don't get? Why does SE allow players to wear accessories that clearly aren't for their class (Healer wearing tank accessories to boost their ilvl) Why are the shire accessories all class? It makes no sense and it only leads to the issue that the OP pointed out.
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