[DEV Question] Why is this allowed?

[Miste]

I have no issue with people "stating solution ideas". I just think that your solution to keep focusing on the importance of weapon (i.e forcing a higher ilvl for the weapon) is more problematic than homogenizing the value of all equipped items.

Well the equipment system in place now was the one SE originally created and implemented at 2.0 launch.

It is way more work for SE to overhaul the entire equipment system than to just add a few extra DF queue requirements to their code.

Your idea: Overhaul of entire item level and equipment system. Have to modify every piece of gear currently in the game. Have to adjust equipment obtainment methods due to homogenization. Have redo mathematical calculations for the gear stats and weights.

My idea: Add a few more DF requirements that the game checks before allowing people to queue. So just some coding; that's all.

Example: Add a DF check that specifically looks at the weapon slot and makes sure the weapon equipped is not massively inappropriate to the point where the player cannot do their role properly. If it is an appropriate level/ilevel then let them queue, if it isn't then issue a DF error message explaining why they cannot queue.

So I disagree. I feel your idea of homogenizing the value of all gear to be way more problematic and as a solution to this particular issue it is too much work for SE to easily implement. So a simpler idea would be more viable in my opinion.

Not to say that later in the game's life or at Stormblood they won't overhaul some of the equipment system, but for specifically this topic's issue your idea would be too much work for them to quickly implement to fix.

[Reynhart]

Your idea: Overhaul of entire item level and equipment system. Have to modify every piece of gear currently in the game. Have to adjust equipment obtainment methods due to homogenization. Have redo mathematical calculations for the gear stats and weights.

My idea : change the ratio between weapon damage and the main stat and...that's it.
Because, again, your idea doesn't change the fact that the weapon is way too important compared to other pieces of gear.

You realize that they changed main stat weight for tanks and that the world didn't crumble ?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

My idea : change the ratio between weapon damage and the main stat and...that's it.
Because, again, your idea doesn't change the fact that the weapon is way too important compared to other pieces of gear.

That's kind of the point tho, its the WEAPON. I don't know any game that relies on damage output where the weapon is not important.

[Vaer]

You realize that they changed main stat weight for tanks and that the world didn't crumble ?

Now imagine if everyone took a damage hit because they messed with the damage formula, suddenly everything is harder to kill. They balanced the game around the weapon scaling being the way it is. This would actually affect quite a bit of the game since a weapon damage ratio change would nerf players. They would have to go into the rest of the gear slots and put the removed damage into the other slots just to keep parity.

It wouldn't break the game, but suddenly everyone is going to be doing less damage unless they put the removed power into other slots or bake it in. It would also devalue the weapons at the minimum which is the hardest slot to upgrade and used as a reward for harder content.

A lot of work when you can just put a check in place to make sure they aren't using a weapon from 2 years ago.

[Nestama]

My idea : change the ratio between weapon damage and the main stat and...that's it.
Because, again, your idea doesn't change the fact that the weapon is way too important compared to other pieces of gear.

You realize that they changed main stat weight for tanks and that the world didn't crumble ?

That's a pretty bad idea. The weapon is important because it's a weapon. Miste has the right idea of making it so that if your weapon level is below the contents level, then you should not be able to enter.
If you remove the importance of the weapon, then why bother doing the Anima questline?

[Callinon]

That's a pretty bad idea. The weapon is important because it's a weapon. Miste has the right idea of making it so that if your weapon level is below the contents level, then you should not be able to enter.
If you remove the importance of the weapon, then why bother doing the Anima questline?

It doesn't have to be equalized. Just make weapon damage not 11-20x more important than a primary stat. Right now it's totally absurd.

[Vivi_Bushido]

You still cleared didn't you? Gosh, stop being such an elitist.

I might consider this complaint more valid if you hadn't also cleared the instance. You're talking about imposing strict restrictions on by-definition casual content.

I think your over reacting as long as you cleared a dungeon it's not an issue at all.

So what I'm getting from this post is "It's a problem if we clear something because it wasn't run the way I think it should have been run."

Did yall clear?

Actually, this is completely different...in fact, it's the exact opposite. Would you hire someone having all the necessary skills/knowledge to perform the job but not dressed to look the part ?

Hi people, sorry but my computer seems broken and my eyes too, I'm sure I was reading of a topic about someone complaining he was able to end a duty.

It requires AVERAGE ilvl not actual. And at the end of the day who cares that is the easiest of the Alex runs let the guy have his fun. As long as it did not hinder your enjoyment or cause a wipe let them be.

It's posts like these that allow someone to get away with playing like an Ice Mage in Dungeons.

[LalaRu]

It's posts like these that allow someone to get away with playing like an Ice Mage in Dungeons.

I give you Kudos for the effors to dig 'em all!

Btw, OP is lamenting about a DUTY FINDER group. You know, a pug. A PUG. And, on top of that, of a duty they successfully done.

Tbh, this is more suited to an entitled elitism than a sincere concern about the use of duty finder. It feels to me as "I run with a PUG but I got people not geared as I demand they have to be. Fix that plox". Don't know if I need to laugh or cry.

I saw in the past people "cheating" the required ilevel using "exotic" accessories, but with a weapon, it is a first.

The proposal to require the weapon il as minimal is not viable, because when I level my characters from 1 to 59, hardly happened to get a decent weapon in the process, call it bad luck or anything else, but that proposal may lock away even legit people so it is difficult to accept as a solution, it is not uncommon to get a duty with a weapon not on par, while you are in your road to gear or level cap.

[Nestama]

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It's still a Level 50 weapon that is both 10 levels and 120 item levels below the content OP did. Even if it's just a PUG and even if they still eventually won (though since OP joined in progress, wipes most likely happened), why are you enabling bad playstyle and accusing OP for elitism?

If this were a tank and/or healer (bonus points if two/four) with the crappy weapon, wipes would be guaranteed and no progress would be made (especially in the unrealistic case of two tanks and healers with crappy weapons). A tank with a level 50 i110 weapon cannot hold hate against a DPS with a level 60 i255 weapon, for example. They wouldn't be able to hold hate from a single Cure.

[JunseiKei]

Btw, OP is lamenting about a DUTY FINDER group. You know, a pug. A PUG. And, on top of that, of a duty they successfully done.

Only after OP had to contribute to above and beyond their role. It's not as simple as your proclaimed 'people are not as geared as I want them to be' straw-man argument.