[DEV Question] Why is this allowed?

[Ama_Hamada]

ALL DFS from Sastasha to salvage needs better gear checks and a better system. I seen it lots of times and yes it is a bigger issue then people seem to make it out to be, where people where too undergeared, it made it too difficult to clear the place. I should not be at the point of stressing to carry just because someone is lazy/does not know,how important gear is because the DF allows them to queue for it. It is ridiculous I can find people in level 50 dfs with a level 45 NQ weapon (places you need be around gear level 70 ish) Seeing someone use a 170 ish weapon as a healer in weeping (I solo healed that fyi) and having level 1-5 gear tank for sastasha because it is " just sastasha" and does not matter. It did end up mattering so yeah we need better guidelines for DF entry. Just because I can carry it, does not mean I should be, and stressing over it.

Asking for level 10 average for sastasha is not much, asking to have at least a level 60 weapon for low end 50 content, 80-90 weapon for upper level 50 content should not be asking much, you can easily get dirt cheap 110 weapons from the market board and 120 tome weapon. People do this because they think they can get away with it because the game allows them, and mot cases they are correct because most cases people can carry them, but there are going to be cases where you simply can't and this shouldn't be allowed to begin with. We shouldn't have to carry people to this degree because people do not know because the system allows them to.

Fact of the matter is that has nothing to do with what I am pointing out. I am questioning the DF system design, not the player's intentions. In the end I don't care what his intentions were or not (it he did it on purpose it is pretty sad, but what can I really do about it besides offer this suggestion?) only that the game let it happen and I think it is a design flaw.







Also since so many people are stuck on "you cleared and didn't wipe" I will provide more information that I had thought wasn't necessary because I didn't see how someone could possibly defend using a level 50 i110 weapon in level 60 content no matter if we "cleared" or not. Whether we cleared or not I have no issue with. My issue is finding this loophole in the DF system where someone can use a weapon extremely inappropriate for the duty.

The duty in question was an in progress queue at 32m for Eyes of Creator. 32m? They wiped. Possibly more than once even.

People eventually ditched and I got in progress on healer with half the party missing, but since I am patient I waited for it to fill and I don't usually scrutinize people's gear for no reason either. They definitely wiped just some people got replaced and got people able to carry his low DPS including me since I had to DPS Faust on healer because we almost wiped and also DPS the adds too so we wouldn't wipe.

There were plenty of red flags during the run to make me realize something was wrong.

Faust almost wiped us because it wasn't dying nearly fast enough. So I had to help DPS on healer otherwise we would have wiped right there.

After Faust died we had 6 power generator add sets we had to kill before we were able to kill the boss.

To give you some idea of how abnormal that is even on week one of release of A9N average groups were only getting 3 power generator add sets after Faust died before killing main boss. As of right now the average group in A9N only gets 1-2 power generator add sets.

(Note: for clarification every time I mentioned Faust here I meant the one IN the boss fight, not the trash one before the main boss room.)

So I wasn't personally there for the wipes, but I am 99.9% sure they happened considering the large amount of time lapsed in the duty when I joined in progress.

Again I must reiterate that the speed of the run I have zero issue with. I really don't care that it took 4 minutes longer than usual or that I swear we almost hit enrage (if there is one). The thing I am pointing out is that this is badly designed.

With how SE designed gear in this game the Weapons are just too important to have someone doing level 60 end game content with a level 50 i110 weapon. Simple fact is they cannot do their role properly like that. DPS will do extremely gimped damage, healers will have extremely gimped heals, tanks will have less HP and be unable to hold aggro.

This game works like this: no matter how much skill or knowledge you have if your gear is massively inappropriate for the content you cannot do your role properly. Since weapon is so important a level 50 i110 weapon in level 60 avg i230 content is massively inappropriate.

Just for some more information on why this is true. I just used a level 50 i110 Staff (Laevateinn) on my BLM and tried to complete the SSS for Alexander Creator and I was unable to kill the dummy. I failed the SSS even though I only changed my weapon to i110. My damage was cut by roughly 50% just because I changed my staff from an i260 one to an i110. It actually even surprised ME that it was that much worse! I knew it was bad but even I underestimated how bad.

Rest of my gear was 7 i270 pieces, 2 i260 pieces, and 2 i250 pieces. My avg item level was i240 with the i110 staff on with the rest of my gear (still failed even tho my avg item level is 10 levels higher than minimum for Alex Creator normal all because of my weapon). For comparison my normal item level with my proper staff is i265.

So, yeah, I am not claiming to be best BLM. I'm not perfect or the best, but I am a competent one (cleared A11S and A12S SSS dummies) and if even a competent one can fail the SSS DPS check with an i110 weapon? Not good.

That is really insane, and ya I wouldn't expect people defending this either. It is a bigger problem then some people make it to be just because they can be carried though it. Well I am tried of it and this thread reminded me of that fact. The game needs stricter guidelines then the current because people do not care/ do not know better.