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  1. #101
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    Ama_Hamada's Avatar
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    Ama Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    The guy with below average gear (i.e., not properly "dressed")

    But, I admit that I didn't expect such a huge gap of damage output against SSS while still staying above the required ilvl. But, for me, the problem should that weapon is too much important compared to other pieces.

    It would be a fun experiment so test how low your weapon can get before you'd fail SSS, for the same average ilvl.
    Quote Originally Posted by QuinRaines View Post
    Step 2b. "I um don't have one."
    Problem solved
    Step 3: Wait for 15 minutes
    Step 4:
    Quote Originally Posted by QuinRaines View Post
    " Vote kick has been commenced.
    How come we have to wait 5 minutes to kick someone?

    I tank did a countdown for Alexander normal, DPS times CD use with it, attack lands on the "start" tank yells at DPS for "not being ready" because someone else wanted to do a ready check after the countdown. Tank lets DPS in question die as they continue to flame them. Group wipes to the DPS check (OH GEE I wonder why) The DPS that died tried to do a yolo speed up attempt and use LB, tank calls out the DPS for "intentionally trying to wipe the group" Then the group does the fight again before the 5 minute timer was up.

    We shouldn't have to fight with someone for being toxic and being THE CAUSE for a wipe because people do not want to wait.

    So what I like to know is
    Why change feast for toxicity when nothing is done to PvE to fight it
    Why isn't there stricter gear checks for the DF when it is needed
    Why the kick system does not work well and easily abused.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 02-24-2017 at 03:17 AM.

  2. #102
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You realize that they changed main stat weight for tanks and that the world didn't crumble ?
    Now imagine if everyone took a damage hit because they messed with the damage formula, suddenly everything is harder to kill. They balanced the game around the weapon scaling being the way it is. This would actually affect quite a bit of the game since a weapon damage ratio change would nerf players. They would have to go into the rest of the gear slots and put the removed damage into the other slots just to keep parity.

    It wouldn't break the game, but suddenly everyone is going to be doing less damage unless they put the removed power into other slots or bake it in. It would also devalue the weapons at the minimum which is the hardest slot to upgrade and used as a reward for harder content.

    A lot of work when you can just put a check in place to make sure they aren't using a weapon from 2 years ago.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 02-24-2017 at 03:38 AM.

  3. #103
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    My idea : change the ratio between weapon damage and the main stat and...that's it.
    Because, again, your idea doesn't change the fact that the weapon is way too important compared to other pieces of gear.

    You realize that they changed main stat weight for tanks and that the world didn't crumble ?
    That's a pretty bad idea. The weapon is important because it's a weapon. Miste has the right idea of making it so that if your weapon level is below the contents level, then you should not be able to enter.
    If you remove the importance of the weapon, then why bother doing the Anima questline?
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  4. #104
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    That's a pretty bad idea. The weapon is important because it's a weapon. Miste has the right idea of making it so that if your weapon level is below the contents level, then you should not be able to enter.
    If you remove the importance of the weapon, then why bother doing the Anima questline?
    It doesn't have to be equalized. Just make weapon damage not 11-20x more important than a primary stat. Right now it's totally absurd.
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  5. #105
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    Vivi_Bushido's Avatar
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    Hott Cocoa
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    Spriggan
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    You still cleared didn't you? Gosh, stop being such an elitist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    I might consider this complaint more valid if you hadn't also cleared the instance. You're talking about imposing strict restrictions on by-definition casual content.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    I think your over reacting as long as you cleared a dungeon it's not an issue at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    So what I'm getting from this post is "It's a problem if we clear something because it wasn't run the way I think it should have been run."
    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    Did yall clear?
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Actually, this is completely different...in fact, it's the exact opposite. Would you hire someone having all the necessary skills/knowledge to perform the job but not dressed to look the part ?
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Hi people, sorry but my computer seems broken and my eyes too, I'm sure I was reading of a topic about someone complaining he was able to end a duty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Renius View Post
    It requires AVERAGE ilvl not actual. And at the end of the day who cares that is the easiest of the Alex runs let the guy have his fun. As long as it did not hinder your enjoyment or cause a wipe let them be.
    It's posts like these that allow someone to get away with playing like an Ice Mage in Dungeons.
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    Last edited by Vivi_Bushido; 02-24-2017 at 05:19 AM.

  6. #106
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    The weapon is important because it's a weapon.
    You realize that this is not even an argument ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    If you remove the importance of the weapon, then why bother doing the Anima questline?
    I managed to beat SSS for Sophia EX with an i255 weapon, and literally every other piece of gear below the required ilvl for Sophia, if weapon is so important, why bother farming armor and accessories ?
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  7. #107
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    It doesn't have to be equalized. Just make weapon damage not 11-20x more important than a primary stat. Right now it's totally absurd.
    Why is it totally absurd?

    Right now, weapon damage sets the scale of increases SE wants for the game.

    If you lower that value of weapon damage, making it matter less, it would mean they just give weapons themselves higher weapon damage numbers.

    IE:
    1 WD on PLD equalling to 25 VIT
    1 WD on PLD equalling to 5 VIT, then give that weapon 5 WD.

    The stat itself 'compared' to the rest of the stats matters little because they purposely want weapon damage to be that important in the end.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 02-24-2017 at 05:32 AM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  8. #108
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 80
    The ilevel requirement should not be an average but a base for all gear.

    Go with this.

    Have 150 All gear at level 60 with 2 270 doesn't mean
    Does't mean you will win in something like Pharos sirus hard.
    Even if you ilevel is 170.


    But that being said it is still just a guide. Not a LAW
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  9. #109
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I managed to beat SSS for Sophia EX with an i255 weapon, and literally every other piece of gear below the required ilvl for Sophia, if weapon is so important, why bother farming armor and accessories ?
    How high was your HP and how long do you think you'd survive wearing that gear in Sophia EX? Would you be a Glass Cannon (more so than Casters/Healers or anyone with Weakness/Brink) who would die in one-two hits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    It doesn't have to be equalized. Just make weapon damage not 11-20x more important than a primary stat. Right now it's totally absurd.
    It's a weapon. The weapon is where most of our damage comes from. Not our armour (though it does add to it). Just make it so that players cannot enter duties if their weapon doesn't match the level of the content.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 02-24-2017 at 05:45 AM.

  10. #110
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    RhaegarFFXIFenrir's Avatar
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    Asagiri Shirogane
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I don't see the issue. My guess is this was a mistake, considering the rest of his gear appears to be i250+. Did you try actually asking the character to swap weapons, or did you hold in your rage to post here? If it was an accident, most players will thank you for pointing out the error and fix it. This is just like a tank forgetting to put tank stance on though, they'll say "oops," address the issue, and then problem solved!
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