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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodSp3c View Post
    they should make it so claric stance is disabled when we enter a dungeon/trial/raid and only used in open world/solo content


    on another note some punk Japanese player demanded i dps. was like 'No Cure' 'Thanks' - 'Regen' 'Holy' in auto translate.

    how dare u tell me how to play, too bad there's no stfu in auto translate!!!
    Strange, I got a tank tody 'No cleric please' so took it off and just healed, Ill do what they ask np
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    People blaming cleric stance...... are you serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    People blaming cleric stance...... are you serious?
    well yes cos if I wasnt in it I feel I would have healed in time. Im curious though on your views on the matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Strange, I got a tank tody 'No cleric please' so took it off and just healed, Ill do what they ask np
    haha strange indeed
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  5. #565
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    well yes cos if I wasnt in it I feel I would have healed in time. Im curious though on your views on the matter?

    Healer dps is not a crime and it shouldn't be disabled in instances like you claim. If you are just going to stand around healing the tank every bit his/her hp drops that's just not taking full advantage of a healer's true prowess. You are free to play how you want but this thread idea is just silly in itself as are your comments and other comments. I don't care how you play but please don't put the idea up that healers should be able to choose between healing and dps exclusively. Healing is more than just healing. Stance dancing is a thing that is important in raids and contributing to dps makes runs go faster. I understand you enjoy the more relaxing environment of healing. As an AST main myself, I contribute to healing as I am a main healer but I also do dps a lot because I like to make myself useful. If I am standing around doing nothing but spamming the occasional benefic on the tank.... it is not showing that I'm an AST main that takes advantage of every ability. Switching stances really isn't hard and PROMOTES a more active environment in endgame because it keeps the mood going. Sorry, but cleric stance won't be removed and it will never be because the only people that have a problem with it are people that scream "It's my sub and I play how I want" and those that don't know how to take advantage of a true healer main.
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  6. #566
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Healer dps is not a crime and it shouldn't be disabled in instances like you claim. If you are just going to stand around healing the tank every bit his/her hp drops that's just not taking full advantage of a healer's true prowess. You are free to play how you want but this thread idea is just silly in itself as are your comments and other comments.
    Thank you very much for your post but wonder if you actually read mine. Your entitled to your opinion ofc, but my views may differ. You will get lots of likes for that. Have a good day, being 'a true healer' whatever that is
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  7. #567
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    People can have their own opinions about healer dps in casual content (dungeons/easy trials). It's not required, you can stand around all day and play top-off every HP healer.

    You are likely to get judged though.

    But you probably do the same thing to other players too. Even as a healer l judge bad tanks that still have Void Park or Wiping City gear, still hold a BAD-jali weapon, and don't know how to use cooldowns on an over-pull, which cuts down our healer DPS. Like you should know being minimum ilvl, you should play your job buttons a little more carefully. Or maybe we judge DPS that don't AoE the mobs or use cooldowns to amp up their damage. There is always that black mage that won't use Enochian, or know how to read it's tooltip. Or a bard that won't sing me Foe Requiem while I'm putting up more healer damage then they do. I can judge all day, but I won't say anything unless we wipe or I feel it's dramatically going to change things.

    See that happens anyway with good and bad players. In the end-game scene, there is a performance difference from a no-dps healer to one that can do both with some finesse. No one is asking for a godly healer DPS numbers, just some concerted effort. There is a standard of what a "good" healer is at this level. Savage end-game might not interest you, but there are players that regularly do the end-game and we still do all the same casual raid/dungeon content.
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    Last edited by technole; 03-02-2017 at 05:29 PM.

  8. #568
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodSp3c View Post
    they should make it so claric stance is disabled when we enter a dungeon/trial/raid and only used in open world/solo content


    on another note some punk Japanese player demanded i dps. was like 'No Cure' 'Thanks' - 'Regen' 'Holy' in auto translate.

    how dare u tell me how to play, too bad there's no stfu in auto translate!!!
    where is the "Report for Spam" button
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  9. #569
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    well yes cos if I wasnt in it I feel I would have healed in time. Im curious though on your views on the matter?
    Then you need to assess the situation better. I'm not saying mistakes don't happen, but the mistake happened because you were in cleric at the wrong time, not because cleric stance is broken.
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  10. #570
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Then you need to assess the situation better. I'm not saying mistakes don't happen, but the mistake happened because you were in cleric at the wrong time, not because cleric stance is broken.
    Yes thats true and maybe I relied on my co healer which is what you also need to do also to a certain extent, if they are not in cleric and only the tank taking damage, but you cant rely on co healer sometimes and that is often why I sometimes start to dps then change to healer because sometimes co healers refuse to solo heal, or cant and Im only saying if we just get rid of cleric and make dps auto intell, then healer doesnt have to rely on so many factors, giving a little more control back to the healer. Unless your saying that this doesnt happen to the very best of players because they know exactly when to do it in all cases
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    Last edited by Feyona; 03-02-2017 at 10:48 PM.

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