How to make the 3rd raid difficulty work

[Reynhart]

Except that it DID work with coil in 2.x - people were walking around with those titles 6+ months before HW came out. Now that savage coil has been nerfed, everyone runs around with those titles like it means something.

Do you actually have the number of people that did Second Coil Savage ? It seems to me that the content was mostly ignored.

[jameseoakes]

Do you actually have the number of people that did Second Coil Savage ? It seems to me that the content was mostly ignored.

Doesn't that show there isn't much demand for that kind of content?

[Watachy]

Doesn't that show there isn't much demand for that kind of content?

That just mean raiders don't wanna bother themselves spending 6/10hours a week for a title they won't even wear...

Yes, but why non-raiders should obtain same ilvl gear ?

This...A casual will have the same ilvl of a raider but will never have the same skill without training...
I love how these days people base everything on ilvl. And when you actually look at your parse the numbers aren't that high

[Llus]

Do you actually have the number of people that did Second Coil Savage ? It seems to me that the content was mostly ignored.

No, all I can offer is observation and on Tiamat (very low population server) while the content was still relevant, I'd routinely see 10+ players at any given time wearing the titles. So it did work; raiders that wanted insanely difficult content had it and played it. I've no idea what the large raiding & legacy servers looked like at the time; but I'm sure there are people around who can post their observations.