Is something ever gonna be done about that?

[Miss_Jane]

But that is NOT your job, that is not Try Hards job, your not on payroll and nobody told you guys to do it. Telling people to mass report, and people who haven't even played a match with these people go and report them, that's the real BS. The problem starts that way, then eventually you get someone who gets a bit zealous and contacts these people in game with some nasty threats. Problem is, if you guys don't know them or they don't check out with you, you hunt them and that is not your place. I am fairly sure GMs get tired of the excess tickets when they have already checked and can't find the evidence, you just keep reporting when they are doing everything they can without crossing a moral line.

Actually, it is our job to report things we don't see that is fair (cheating, wintrading). We the players are the only ones that can tell SE that these kinds of things are happening. SE themselves has told us to file reports. We don't just mass report. At least I don't. I only report when it affects me personally. And in this case I have lost many matches due to these cheaters and wintraders.

Once again, the real problem is that nothing is being done at all.

The GMs reply to us, say they are conducting an investigation. Days go by. Weeks go by. And it continues to this day with the same exact people.

[sauceykitten]

Actually, it is our job to report things we don't see that is fair (cheating, wintrading). We the players are the only ones that can tell SE that these kinds of things are happening. SE themselves has told us to file reports. We don't just mass report. At least I don't. I only report when it affects me personally. And in this case I have lost many matches due to these cheaters and wintraders.

Once again, the real problem is that nothing is being done at all.

The GMs reply to us, say they are conducting an investigation. Days go by. Weeks go by. And it continues to this day with the same exact people.

How do you prove intent to win trade? Bad healing? Not healing at all? Ok lets say I am handicapped and like to play feast with my arm that isn't gimp. I start up, I get to playing and I lose my matches, but because I didn't heal well enough and the other guy is also from my server , I am win trading after so many losses?

[Stormrider]

Until they add something to the game that tracks the people who use all extensions and ban them they don't seem to have any real tools to track cheaters. Or the system they use is so bad that everything falls through the cracks. Which is in response to the spell speed issue. The win traders they can just check matches and see if whenever those 2 match up if one heals less and died unreasonably.

[pushin_tin]

Wow, after being outed publicly months ago, he's STILL at it. SE needs to really take a good hard look on how they treat speedhacking because when people see that they can get away with it, the game is gonna turn real ugly real quick.

EDIT: OP your sacrifice will not be forgotten o7

[Culfinrandir]

I presume everyone complaining about hacks/cheating in PvP are not using parsers in PvE?


If so, i call hypocrite.


Can't exactly expect Square-Enix to turn a blind eye to parsing, but crack down hard on people using the same or similar tools in PvP.

I report hackers & cheaters wherever I see them. I don't use a parser, never have. I use no add-ons because it is forbidden in the ToCs (I'm not against others using parsers sensibly though). SE must crack down harder on cheaters everywhere, from gathering bots to speed hacks in PVP. We, as a community, must also stop green lighting it too by saying rubbish like "well, it doesn't affect me". It affects every single player, whether directly or indirectly.

[Rita1989]

Both are used by players of XIV, to execute a means which said user deems acceptable, and Square-Enix really doesnt do anything about.

So, i'm pretty sure as long as you can justify using a parser, these people can justify using what they are.



oh stop, your hypocrisy is showing.

I'm not even subscribed to the game. Havent been for 2-3+ months.

You can't post on forums if your not subscribed nice try though

[sauceykitten]

Until they add something to the game that tracks the people who use all extensions and ban them they don't seem to have any real tools to track cheaters. Or the system they use is so bad that everything falls through the cracks. Which is in response to the spell speed issue. The win traders they can just check matches and see if whenever those 2 match up if one heals less and died unreasonably.

And what if they have healed the same way every single game and still suck at healing, how do you prove intent?

[Exiled_Tonberry]

SE? Caring about PvP? That's a funny joke.

[Llus]

And what if they have healed the same way every single game and still suck at healing, how do you prove intent?

You check their DF log and watch the pattern of withdrawals from one healer when DF doesn't pop at the same time and only accept when it does pop at the same time. As late as it is in the season and with them realistically having almost no chance of making the top 100; I would also wonder if they aren't selling wins to DPS or Tanks which could be tracked through trade or mail transactions. I see you're white-knighting these win traders; so I'll also make the assumption that you ARE one of them and this is a 7 day old alt (http://xivdb.com/character/16794066/kira+kira/faerie), or that you are friends with some of them and you feel you have to defend their actions. Either way; your words are falling on deaf ears if you're trying to convince PvP regulars that they aren't in fact win trading.

[Daniolaut]

You can't post on forums if your not subscribed nice try though

Nice try what?

Being subscribed or not doesn't actually change the fact of what I'm saying.

(I even included a link to another thread.)

Also, if you think calling me a liar is going to make me feel good about returning and enjoying an experience with the endgame player base, you're sorely mistaken.


You're cute when you're wrong. (Actually you're not, you're just wrong when you're wrong.)




The requirement to post, is a registered log in. So either my 2 week old free trial log in is still counting, or somehow my XI log in is counting. Either way, i havent subscribed for close to 5 months, because of lovely people like you, I know i'm bound to run into.