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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Why call them out in the first place though? The whole issue was they removed the coil difficulty in alexander and made 2 extremes, super easy and super hard. The people who were content with "normal" difficulty got screwed over and voiced there concern for the new tiers. I dont see that as an issue but a major conern. They didnt think about the middle ground and should have had 3 modes, story, normal (aka coil before echo) and savage. Yoshi and team are very wrong with the calling out here.
    Gonna straight up say here, middle difficulty is not going to work like people think it will.

    I played another game that decided to split major content into the three difficulties you describe, and what happened? Everyone immediately disregarded the fact that the middle difficulty even existed, to the point where the devs reversed that decision not even a year later. No one would even admit to only being able to clear the middle difficulty instead of the hardcore difficulty, even though the hardcore difficulty was pretty much deliberately designed to be even more total bull[censored] tier than Gordias ever was because Korean F2P MMO.

    Said game had a much smaller raiding community than FFXIV. One must understand that the devs method of assigning value to content is far different from what value the community itself will assign to it, and it is quite frankly something they can't control. Hell, I'd go as far as to say that the vast majority of people who complained that the end of Coil was too easy were just grandstanding on message boards, living vicariously through the progress of other raid groups, and didn't ACTUALLY clear the entire coil themselves. One only needs to see how people reacted to world first groups clearing Creator so quickly to notice that - a 48 hour clear later and people who weren't even related to those groups already declared the content too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Gonna straight up say here, middle difficulty is not going to work like people think it will.

    I played another game that decided to split major content into the three difficulties you describe, and what happened? Everyone immediately disregarded the fact that the middle difficulty even existed, to the point where the devs reversed that decision not even a year later. No one would even admit to only being able to clear the middle difficulty instead of the hardcore difficulty, even though the hardcore difficulty was pretty much deliberately designed to be even more total bull[censored] tier than Gordias ever was because Korean F2P MMO.
    The middle difficulty was fine all through coil though. Only the more hardcore had issues with it being too easy. SE then released savage coil but by that point it was too late and it only offered titles. With Alex the incentive to run savage was there with the added higher tier loot which is totally fine. Story mode should only exist to show story and have no loot. I understand having 3 modes seems pointless but if you offer loot in 2 of the 3 then I dont think its an issue. People who are happy with a normal(coil tier difficulty) will run that and people who want better loot and more challenge will run savage to be the best of the best. I agree that people will always flock to whatever is easier and quickest, thats why SE should realize giving rewards only in the difficulties that require effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug View Post
    The reason he gave for not adding a butt slider doesn't sit well with me. The textures would get stretched? We already have sliders for other things, including bust, so it's not like there's no way they couldn't make it work. At least he realises there's a demand and said he would look in to it.

    Good questions so far, though =)
    Bust size has no effect on 99% of gear unless it says "it can only be equipped for this race" (the starting race gear/hempen).
    They know butt slider will have no effect on shared gear/glamour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Bust size has no effect on 99% of gear unless it says "it can only be equipped for this race" (the starting race gear/hempen).
    They know butt slider will have no effect on shared gear/glamour
    I'm still trying to figure out why do people want the butt slider :/ I have no desire for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out why do people want the butt slider :/ I have no desire for it.
    I dont know either... Would rather have more preset faces, different ears for miqote, horns for au ra, beards for roe etc. than butt slider. Looks like some glare at their flat butts rather than their dublicated faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren View Post
    YES! I was like, "BAM! He got them good." I put it as a reminder in my signature.
    The people that die in Aurum vale
    The people that die at Aery
    The people that die at Vault


    We'll see, I hope people asking for difficulty understand that you can't just kick people because they're dying all the time. If you use DF without a premade party be ready to deal with it. Also, the people who will use premade, be ready to schedule duty roulete runs as if you were scheduling raid runs....

    In the end I hope they add more difficulty, we need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    What a complete waste. I get that we don't have any new races this time because of the Au ra. The Au ra were released early in order to explore their backstory later on, and it makes sense. They helped create interest in the eastern lands.. I just don't get why they aren't going to at least improve our characters. It's incredibly disappointing that we're going to probably be living with what we already have until we get close to 2019. I wouldn't be surprised if people unsubscribed.

    Lol. People unsubscribing because they can't make their butts bigger or add a beard? Man...if that was the case wow would have been dead the moment is took off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I dont know either... Would rather have more preset faces, different ears for miqote, horns for au ra, beards for roe etc. than butt slider. Looks like some glare at their flat butts rather than their dublicated faces.
    Fundamentally, I don't think they trust us the players. Sliders for facial features and body structure would have been great way to avoid duplication too, but I assume they were worried about the aesthetic of the game.

    I would have loved a butt slider in particular; however, it would have been too much power entrusted to too many people. I scarcely imagine the apocalyptic hellscape that would have resulted from such a decision. It is a pity, but we cannot have nice things.
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    Our memory of their faces is fuzzy, like an unidentifiable wad of fibers. -Anonymous Epitaph to the Warriors of Lint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    Lol. People unsubscribing because they can't make their butts bigger or add a beard? Man...if that was the case wow would have been dead the moment is took off.
    While I had to laugh at this so much, in the end.. you mention the difference. I think WoW is also so popular because of its different races (not human like) and their character creation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warr_of_Lint View Post
    Fundamentally, I don't think they trust us the players. Sliders for facial features and body structure would have been great way to avoid duplication too, but I assume they were worried about the aesthetic of the game.

    I would have loved a butt slider in particular; however, it would have been too much power entrusted to too many people. I scarcely imagine the apocalyptic hellscape that would have resulted from such a decision. It is a pity, but we cannot have nice things.
    Yea, I agree. It really is a waste not to extend our character creator. I mean, if SE is concerned about inappropiate esthetics, they can still limit it at a certain grade. Yet, they seem to refuse completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out why do people want the butt slider :/ I have no desire for it.
    Because people want to have big butt with big boobs characters.
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