The only real way to solve DPS queues

[Khalithar]

I wouldn't mind having a larger party than 4, I've always felt like 5-6 is better for a party size personally. That being said, I feel as though Palace was their solution to DPS queues since it takes whoever in whatever order they queued in. Now, I do want to add I understand that part of the issue with palace is that there are plenty of fights where if you don't have a healer it's basically impossible. But I attribute that more to a failure in design, specifically, if you're going to create content that can be done without a healer then it needs to be tuned assuming there are no healers or HP recovery, that is currently not the situation.

[Pintsized]

DPS queues are long, have always been long, and will continue to be long.

SE's choice of 4-man parties condemned DPS to this problem, no MMO has a proportion of 1:1:2 tank/healer/DPS so why SE thought it a good idea to create this situation is beyond me, especially as their previous MMO had a more useful 1:1:4 ratio.

As long as SE stick to this format, and I see no prospect of their ever changing it as I've never seen them even acknowledge there's a problem, DPS will have to suffer this.

[Khalithar]

SE's choice of 4-man parties condemned DPS to this problem, no MMO has a proportion of 1:1:2 tank/healer/DPS .

Just to nitpick, SWTOR does! :P

[Vexander]

Increasing the DPS slots to 3 or 4 instead of 2 would certainly help reduce the waiting times, however, it'd also require more drop rates to compensate, bosses suddenly dropping two or three pieces of gear instead of 1, same with chests.

Other changes that'd be useful for this would be codes to ensure no duplicate item drops, and to ensure only items that can be equipped by those in the party drop, so, no party of PLD/WHM/BLM/BRD dropping gear for DRG or MNK.

[noctis_lucis]

How bout giving unique tokens to role-in-needs that you can use to buy unique glamours/mounts etc? Though they have to make the role-in-need update faster cause sometimes i get faster queues on healer.

[Xhieron]

It's tricky. The easiest thing to do, if your only interest is DPS queue times, is to just eliminate 4-man content and make all new group content 1:1:6. 'Would really suck for tanks and healers though. ...

Honestly I feel like what's really needed are better incentives for tanking, and I don't mean rewards. Tanking has a high barrier to entry. Coupled with high pressure and minimal guidance for new tanks, that renders the population even more suppressed. The only way to fix that is to do a better job helping new players break into tanking and learn the role in a pressure-free environment. Throwing more Gil or stones at people won't get them to tank, but making tanking less stressful and more fun might.

[AlphaFox]

I wouldn't argue if they wanted to test the waters and have a dungeon or two come expansion to be 1/1/3(or4) and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out they could always rework that dungeon back to the original 1/1/2 or just never do that again and move forward.

[KiraCifer]

another way either simple suck it up and wait or get a friend/partner who likes and plays either tank or healer and team up with them for any and all dungeon runs.

[tymora]

Some of us don't mind doing any role in a party. Be nice to have another option to queue with any role.

Prereq - At least 1 job in each role that fits queue requirements (e.g. ilvl)
Implementation - Match people, keep people in holding pen until job req met.

[Daniolaut]

Increase the new 4-man instances to either 5-man or 6-man instances and scale difficulty / mobs accordingly. Of course this would be too big a job to change all of the current dungeons to this setup, so I am suggesting that any "new" dungeons after a certain point be changed to this.
1 Tank, 1 Healer, 3/4 DPS.
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I asked/said this a long long time ago.

Was completely ignored basically.

The thread was also on this very subject.

My post

The thread from 2013

This was also why healer queues were instant at release, because they never had to wait for anything ever.

So yes, its going to be much worse come 4.0 for all content.

3 tanks
3 healers
9 dps,

which equates to 3 dps waiting for every tank job for dungeons.
1 tank 1 healer, and 5 dps jobs not in a 8 man group, which equates to 1-2 dps jobs waiting to enter a 8 man duty finder.