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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Starting with SB, they should have made dungeons 5 man and upped the health on enemies. However it only partially helps due to it putting more stress on healer and tank which I am sure they are trying to avoid with the upcoming changes.
    Why that assumption? From the start, even at minimum ilvl, dungeon requirements for healing and mitigation have been rather low, and they only got lower over HW.
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    I'd suggest a completely new roulette that will put you into a duty with your role chosen at random.

    Make this roulette unlocks after you have all three roles unlocked, and goodbye queues
    Or, to be less drastic, let the duty finder queue for multiple roles.
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    Still won't fix the problem. Every mmo I have played that has the trinity system in place struggles with a shortage of tanks. It has nothing to do with the number of tank classes available, or the number required for any specific content. It has everything to do with people not wanting the responsibility of "leading" group content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoWhit View Post
    Still won't fix the problem. Every mmo I have played that has the trinity system in place struggles with a shortage of tanks. It has nothing to do with the number of tank classes available, or the number required for any specific content. It has everything to do with people not wanting the responsibility of "leading" group content.
    Alternatively, those with "soft" roles or "spectrum-ed" roles have no such issues, since everyone's about equally capable and culpable of/for group responsibilities. Hmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Alternatively, those with "soft" roles or "spectrum-ed" roles have no such issues, since everyone's about equally capable and culpable of/for group responsibilities. Hmm.
    And yet, GW2 was incredibly boring and stacked Warriors for speed clears because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Alternatively, those with "soft" roles or "spectrum-ed" roles have no such issues, since everyone's about equally capable and culpable of/for group responsibilities. Hmm.
    Nowhere in there did I say nobody else has responsibilities. Now, if you'd like to read it again, I said "the responsibility of 'leading' group content."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoWhit View Post
    Still won't fix the problem. Every mmo I have played that has the trinity system in place struggles with a shortage of tanks. It has nothing to do with the number of tank classes available, or the number required for any specific content. It has everything to do with people not wanting the responsibility of "leading" group content.
    I play a tank and I've never lead anything so I don't know where you get the idea that tanks have to be leaders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    I play a tank and I've never lead anything so I don't know where you get the idea that tanks have to be leaders?
    You have to lead every dungeon you do, since DPS or healers pulling is a very bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You have to lead every dungeon you do, since DPS or healers pulling is a very bad idea.
    I just grab things and use my aoe enmity not really that hard to hold targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    I play a tank and I've never lead anything so I don't know where you get the idea that tanks have to be leaders?
    Apparently you don't understand the meaning of the quotes?
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