Samurai Melee DPS thoughts

[Brian_]

It sure is.

It seems like people have completely forgotten how EXP scaling took a quantum leap between 1-50 and 50-60 at HW release. Are you really not expecting the same for 60-70? We needed so much EXP to level from 50-51 that most ARR-based EXP amounts were like a drop of water in the ocean.

I fully expect FATEs to scale poorly again before being buffed later to help people level alts. I fully expect PotD EXP to be nerfed into the ground post 60 until an updated PotD is released. I fully expect beast-tribe dailies, centurio hunts, and leves to be obsolete again.

SE very deliberately made the MSQ the best way to level with HW was released. I expect the same from SB. And, the MSQ is heavily gated by instanced content.

And PF? That's the same as DF. So you make a PF listing LF a tank and healer for content. 10000 other DPS will be doing that, too. I guess you can watch it like a hawk and pray that you snipe your way into a PF created by a tank or healer before the other thousands of DPS do.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

With SAM being so popular I can see 500k+ on certain servers

Content selling has gone casual!

Concerning the reason why they didn't do healers or tanks this expac. Based on their statistics, there was no increase on tanks or healers. Only the players who originally played tank or healers played those jobs.

Well, to be fair.

The parameters have changed this time.
Instead of having a job of each role for people, allowing transference both directions.

This time there's only jobs of a single role, meaning transference can only go in one direction.

Thats the thing, people who wanted SAM as a tank were tanks themselves and dps who dont want their que times overflooded with other dps cause hehheh competition and long que times, spewing about there must be balance. Statistics don't lie on how many tank and how many dps.

I personally play DPS mostly, but have dabbled in other roles.

I'm not all the fond of the current tank's aesthetics, Samurai would have been a great tank for me.

[Sylentmana]

My thoughts on the subject are mostly incomprehensible squealings of joy. I love the Samurai concept and would have learned to tank for if I had to (even though I hate tanking). I'm glad I don't have too.

[Belhi]

This is such an overblown issue.

On the launch of expansions there has always been enough players to fill each server to max capacity, and we just got Cross-Server PF with 50+ parties pretty consistently. That's with almost the bare minimum players active. Do people REALLY think, considering those couple of things, there's really gonna be that big an issue? Find friends. Join Discord groups. Ask your FC. It's the perfect time to get more social.

On the topic of Samurai as a DPS? Dream come true. The fact that there's only 2 new jobs gives me hope that they really worked hard to create an interesting image and place in the meta for both.

Its a pure numbers thing. Unless the pool of tanks and healers start charity runs for random dps it will be pure supply and demand. The very fact that there will be a shortage means most tanks and healers will probably be running only with their FCs as they will have an over abundance of dps to heal/tank for. The vast masses will still be lacking. You can have 1000 parties on the party finders but if there aren't enough tanks or healers then its not going to matter. A shortage is a shortage.

I could be wrong but we will both know in 4 months. Either way the only real impact it will have on me is the likely amounts of salt generated by impatient DPS demanding SE do something about hour long dungeon queues.

[Shurrikhan]

I personally play DPS mostly, but have dabbled in other roles.

I'm not all the fond of the current tank's aesthetics, Samurai would have been a great tank for me.

If not for for the increased relative strength of tanks with the tank vitality shift, I'd probably have just gone on tanking dungeons on my Dragoon. Had CC not been removed, purposely making our skills irrelevant to ensure trinity play, I probably could have been 1 of 4 "tanks", easily allowing for the inflated DPS counts. And I can't imagine a more perfect fit for the SAM aesthetic than a strong DPS who can still take high advantage of occasional tanking.

[Arasiel]

We only had one 2-handed melee dps(DRG). We already had 2-handed tanks(DRK, WAR). I feel it was time for another heavy weapon DPS.

I get people who only play tanks, healers are little sad but those players have to realize what we were getting and had to have some forethought we may get two dps now and a tank or healer next

[Renius]

Remember when NIN came out? It's going to be like that.
But worse. Infinitely worse.

So what. Stay as tank and healer get in queues faster, wait for all the hubub to die down enjoy the new content faster by keeping your tank and healer polished and looking good. When the big push dies down get into RDM or SAM.

[RaijinSupreme]

SAM is simply gonna be more popular as a DPS than it would have ever been as a Tank.

[Khel]

SAM is simply gonna be more popular as a DPS than it would have ever been as a Tank.

You could prob say that about any class, imagine how many DRKs would be around if they were DPS.

[bswpayton]

I wish it was a tank because dps are just to squishy for my taste I like the large health pool, and the ability to take damage that I know doesn't come as a dps two hits and your dead.