Samurai Melee DPS thoughts

[ShinMetsu]

Sweet baby jesus this char limit on post is maddening

I feel you, as I main tank as well, a little part of me is disappointed.
Even more so, I'm a huge huge samurai/eastern culture fanboy to be fair, but i'm actually glad it's a dps, looking at sam it has a better feel to it imo.

2 or 4 years does sound long, but i don't think it's such a long time personally.
I do come from ffxi though, so long term investments are kinda part of my nature.
Played PLD RDM SAM for years, probably like 7 years.
But that's kinda the great thing about Final Fantasy mmos, you're not bound to one job.
I enjoy playing multiple jobs, although it was easier to have relevant gear in ffxi, it's kinda... a pain in the bum in ffxiv.

And i'm not sure if you've actually tried all jobs, but personally i feel like Melee DPS and Tanks are a lot more alike than Melee DPS and Caster DPS, personal opinion though.


They sadly can't please everyone at the same time. Someone had to get the short end of the stick.
You're right to voice that you're displeased, but at the same time, other people who are pleased will voice against it too.

Side Note: You can edit to bypass 1000 character limits

the thing with the "8 man que" priority is that while it does start as mentioned 2 melee one phys range one caster is that it drops that considerably fast for the sake of speed to 4 dps.

This is not true for raid finder, you need to have the right party composition.
Afaik at least, as we've tried to get into a12s with a MCH taking the 'caster' spot from another server, it wouldn't match us.

[Claymore65]

I'll admit, I'm less disappointed about Samurai being a melee DPS then the lack of new Healers/Tanks.

I really, really hope they knock it out of the park with the supposed "Balance" improvements coming to tanks and healers, because right now there's a lot less to look forward to with those roles. Considering DPS are also going to get adjustments (as well as new Jobs), I can't help but feel a bit left out.

Hopefully we get some insight soon into these supposedly huge changes to these roles. It they end up being a few minor tweaks to certain abilities (potency increase etc) I'll be supremely disappointed.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm not bitching because i deserve it or some kind of bullshit reason like that, but simply in this game everything spin around dps.
For years tanks had basically 2 and ½ (imho poor PLD is not bad as it's depicted) jobs at their disposal and now we are still stuck with the same situation for at very least another 3 years.
As i said before the ability overhaul will not dramatically change how war,drk and pld act we can only hope that both 3 class will have a good balance from start because if even one the 3 tank class or 3 healer class will result broken due to the changes i cannot even imagine the level of rage that will result.

Side note:

Sweet baby jesus this char limit on post is maddening

I've played the same 2 jobs for 6 years. I'm happy to finally have something new to play. I've been a PLD for almost 4 now.

[Arutan]

It's not the same because its coming out during a time when people will want to level their main job to 70, and its not the only option to level. Not everyone will want to play the new jobs right away cause they want to level their old main jobs to 70.

Jump potion. People can jump sam to 60 upon getting it and go do Stormblood MSQ with it.

[Hunky]

If only 15% of current Healers and Tanks make the switch, even temporarily it will make a substancial difference to queues. I know healers and tanks who have said they are going to be levelling the SAM or RDM first regardless of what role they are. As I pointed out before, just look at what happened in HW with dps queues becoming instant. If it happened one way it very likely will happen the other as well.

I agree with Belhi. If players who main DPS gladly switched to tank to try out Dark Knight, I can see players who main healers and tanks switch to try out one of the new dps jobs.

Another thing to point out is that both red mage and samurai will be available in ARR areas, whereas machinist, dark knight, and astrologian were only available in Ishgard. It was stated that players can unlock the new jobs after finishing 2.0. People won't just be taking red mage and samurai through 4.0, but through 2.1 and onwards as well.

[RaijinSupreme]

Jump potion. People can jump sam to 60 upon getting it and go do Stormblood MSQ with it.

First, the jump potion was already confirmed to not be released at the same time as Stormblood. So the jump potion option won't be available at the time where this scenario is actually relevant, which is in the first couple of months of the expansion.

Second, even if this is true, it's most definitely not going to be a common thing for people to spend $30 just to skip 10 levels on only 1 job, especially when they most likely will have done the MSQ on another job anyway.

[Greedalox]

First, the jump potion was already confirmed to not be released at the same time as Stormblood. So the jump potion option won't be available at the time where this scenario is actually relevant, which is in the first couple of months of the expansion.

Second, even if this is true, it's most definitely not going to be a common thing for people to spend $30 just to skip 10 levels on only 1 job, especially when they most likely will have done the MSQ on another job anyway.

I'm gonna have to agree with this, the leveling potion seems like it's a non-issue for this particular instance.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Again, I don't see why they have to rebalance certain jobs or add new jobs. Why not both?Also, now that there's no new tank (healer too I guess, but I feel like most people gave up on wishing for a healer when only 2 new jobs were confirmed), the pressure is greater than ever to get balance right and make them all fun to play. If whatever changes they make to PLD, for example, don't "bring it up to speed" with the other two, now what? Are they going to keep trying to balance it over the expansion until they get it right? Or are we gonna have to wait 2 more years for another round of sweeping changes?

Let's not get it twisted, if they "fix" every healer and tank, no one will be more happy than I am. I would love that. My problem is the word "if."

Adding another tank or healer only increases the difficulty in balancing them all against each other. If the changes in 4.0 aren't enough, why wouldn't they continue to make adjustments. They spent several patches buffing Astro.

[AmalonStar]

Personally I had been excited about stormblood but I dunno anymore I'm waiting to hear more about what's all been said in the fan fest, isn't it over a couple days long? I'm hoping they still have a third job tucked away as a surprise release, I'll probably try out the 2 new dps jobs tho I won't do dungeons or anything like that with them.

As for the dps que times I expect those to double or triple, like others have said when hw was released dps que time were pretty much insta que cause everyone was playing drk and some on ast

[EorzeaHero69]

I don't see anything wrong with samurai being DPS. Though they have to share monk stuff, though it's technically not the only job that's shared gear with them. But that was only 50-110 gear that's not artifact or myth for ninja and monk.