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    BreyVoreas93's Avatar
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    Brey Voreas
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    Hahaha I'm expecting more tank mounts and healer mounts and other exclusive tank/healer goodies to incentivise people to play those roles and to keep things balanced. Such a stupid idea to take something as popular as samurai (everyone loves katanas) and make it a role that a lot of people play already. What was the unicorn, warbear/lion/panther for SE?
    Which begs the question wth is the panda mount for then I had assumed it was a tank mount for SAM...
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    Brey Voreas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    they say lightning doesnt strike the same spot twice, but in those days "Roc of the Ages" was getting hammered by it constantly
    Bahahaha! Indeed it was.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    People are forgetting, if dungeon queues are abysmal, people will simply opt to level through the new PotD. Duty Finder isn't the only option.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Long term, this is going to be a disaster. We will have 9 dps, 3 healers and 3 tanks which is a perfect distribution for 5 man and 10 man teams, but our teams are 4 man and 8 man (as far as we know). No doubt there will be healers and tanks who swap their main role for this new and interesting dps game play. I'm one of them (even if I'm just a casual baddy). This role shift will affect not only Expert roulette dungeon queues but also the savage raid and primal scene.

    I said in an earlier thread that a part of me wished for SAM to be a dps and I acknowledged there would be consequences. Namely not getting to actually play the new jobs in any group content (except PotD). There is a possibility that some people who previously tolerated longer queues as a dps will now reach a breakpoint where it's too much, and that will cause them to tank or heal more often. People don't like being excluded from content. This could help balance the roles but I'm not sure by how much. I guess the community will need to be more tolerant to healer and tank mistakes now that those roles will be a scarcity and some players will be new to it.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 02-18-2017 at 08:43 PM.

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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I hope they really do some significant balancing on tanks and healers to compensate for lack of new jobs....
    Otherwise we will stuck with PLD/WAR or DRK/WAR, and WHM/SCH or AST/SCH preferred comp for yet another expansion, while the DPS slots will have even more combinations to choose from...

    And by balancing, I sincerely hope it won't be nerfs to WAR and SCH....

    Especially if they'd stick to the raid design of requiring the party to have main tank and off tank roles, as well as main healer and sub healer roles....
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    Last edited by Fland; 02-18-2017 at 08:52 PM.

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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fland View Post
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    well samurai go to be slashing, and RDM have mele sword attacks too, meaby slashing too but looks like more pearcing, excep the made SAM have some kind off slashing buff that make storm eye dont be mandatory i see changes at least in that area, or make every one have a slashing debuff.

    lets see what they do, bcs having WAR buffing the dps of 4-5 party members is pretty heavy.
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    well samurai go to be slashing, and RDM have mele sword attacks too, meaby slashing too but looks like more pearcing, excep the made SAM have some kind off slashing buff that make storm eye dont be mandatory i see changes at least in that area, or make every one have a slashing debuff.

    lets see what they do, bcs having WAR buffing the dps of 4-5 party members is pretty heavy.
    if sam has slashing debuff, people are still gonna prefer the war to do the debuff.... unless the slashing debuff from sam comes from the required dps combo and doesn't lower their dps like nin's does....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fland View Post
    if sam has slashing debuff, people are still gonna prefer the war to do the debuff.... unless the slashing debuff from sam comes from the required dps combo and doesn't lower their dps like nin's does....
    thats was im saying, all depend of the SAM skill set if WAR utility is still mandatory or being unecesary at the presence of a samurai in the team.

    the other think that can keep WAR mandatory is they personal dps, all depend of how balance the tanks damage or bring some desirable utility to PLD/DRK now they are confirmed are only 3 for at least 2 years in order to make DRK/PLD comb with a SAM a second powerfull party set up
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    Last edited by shao32; 02-18-2017 at 09:40 PM.

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    ShinMetsu's Avatar
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    Tetsu Kaiten
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    It's all exactly what i wanted, even the setting they showed.
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    Leone Noir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 65
    I'm glad samurai is a dps class. So happyyyy
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