Samurai Melee DPS thoughts

[Yukiko]

From another thread:

Why two DPS?

Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.

The players have style options now with split parity across the board. This is a good thing. Honestly I was initially disappointed with no tank, but once I thought about it, I was glad that SE chose to try to clean up and bring identity to the Tanks and heals we have to try to make them more fun to play. PLD needs some attention, so I don't want SAM tank stealing that spotlight.

I dont think its a "cleanup".
My guess is that it have something to do with the battle system changes and they are creating some sort of base-pillar. To have 3 of all sounds like a programming issue and it will make it easier to add new jobs later on...

tldr: they just filled holes based on main stats

[St0rmchild]

The players have style options now with split parity across the board. This is a good thing. Honestly I was initially disappointed with no tank, but once I thought about it, I was glad that SE chose to try to clean up and bring identity to the Tanks and heals we have to try to make them more fun to play. PLD needs some attention, so I don't want SAM tank stealing that spotlight.

Not only that, I also recall being mentioned that tanks/healers can look forward to an overhaul of their jobs ... so that could be interesting.

[Evergrey]

Not only that, I also recall being mentioned that tanks/healers can look forward to an overhaul of their jobs ... so that could be interesting.

I'm looking forward to it

[BreyVoreas93]

There were full on ninja fate parties back when NIN came out. Even with queue time being a little long, I still capped NIN in 3 days straight. And that was without other options like PoTD. On top of that you get Story XP if you go through it on RDM or SAM. It's really not that big of a deal with Main Tanks and Healers queueing up.

Lol that was a sight to behold svara/cancer fates where 35 ninjas were out there and no one else...

[ADVSS]

they say lightning doesnt strike the same spot twice, but in those days "Roc of the Ages" was getting hammered by it constantly


On a bright side, we get another 2 years of Chemist/Dancer threads, Blue Mage threads, PUP,BST and Mystic Knight threads

[LadyAveria]

As long as they don't mess up Whm, all you Sammies and Red Mages can be rest assured I will heal you in dungeons

[Venoshock]

Hahaha I'm expecting more tank mounts and healer mounts and other exclusive tank/healer goodies to incentivise people to play those roles and to keep things balanced. Such a stupid idea to take something as popular as samurai (everyone loves katanas) and make it a role that a lot of people play already. What was the unicorn, warbear/lion/panther for SE?

[Neophyte]

Hahaha I'm expecting more tank mounts and healer mounts and other exclusive tank/healer goodies to incentivise people to play those roles and to keep things balanced. Such a stupid idea to take something as popular as samurai (everyone loves katanas) and make it a role that a lot of people play already. What was the unicorn, warbear/lion/panther for SE?

Do people even play the same game as I do?


Snapshot of current trials cross-server pf of Chaos: 21 tank slots, 17 healer slots, 104 dps slots (+20 free white slots).

Roulettes as dps: Ex -12 min; lvl. 60 - <5 min; leveling < 5 min; trials < 5 min

Sooooo...the only content not screaming for more dps is expert roulette... Ye, we totally need to balance class distribution around that..

For savage contents it's negligible anyway, because you can't do a proper static with people only and forever sticking to one hyped, new class. Like.. itÄs likely that there should be only 1 red mage/samurai per group anyway (unless they gimp themselfes), so 6 others have play an old class anyway (this would be true regardless new jobs... 2 new jobs = 6 old jobs at least per balanced group).

[Shiro--Tsubasa]

I'm kind of happy about it. Although I may be a bit biased considering I hated how Dark Knight was made into a tank considering the theme doesn't even catch you as a team player hell dark knights would sooner kill their own team mate if it meant gaining a bit more power.That aside, I'm happy I'll finally be able to play a swordsman. Also I wouldn't worry to much about ques. We have other ways of leveling and most people will go right back to their mains that have the roles they like playing after the first few weeks. So even if 90% of the playerbase make a SAM not even half will stick with the class.

Now when it comes to tanks and healers not getting a new class I am speculating, but I think they want to wait until they do the overhaul to the job system before adding more in 5.0, maybe. If they do make another tank lets hope it is the Blue Mage. lol

[RaizeGraymalkin]

Super fucking stoked. Called it a while ago. It's like a double dose of awesome. 1. It's a DPS and we finally get our sword based one 2. All the people so cocksure it wasn't Sam Raimi and that it was Blue Mage.