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  1. #1
    Player
    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Its very Rurouni Kenshin, I'm excited for it :P
    I'm waiting for Kenshin Himura, Kensheen Himura, Kenshin Heemura and all the variations of that to eventually appear on the servers.

    I'm just hoping glamours allow someone to create a facsimile of Shinguuji Sakura, because with DPS SAM focused on iaido, it's a possibility.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    XSamsaraLotusX's Avatar
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    Samsara Lotus
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Adding another tank or healer only increases the difficulty in balancing them all against each other. If the changes in 4.0 aren't enough, why wouldn't they continue to make adjustments. They spent several patches buffing Astro.
    Its a nice thing there no need to balanc dps,most dps dont know what they do any way.
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    XSamsaraLotusX's Avatar
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    Samsara Lotus
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nexxus View Post
    And maybe the new battle system will get ride off positionals ! ;p
    And of any game play as all if we at it.
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    Reaperking386's Avatar
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    Ertai Spelldragon
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Concerning the reason why they didn't do healers or tanks this expac. Based on their statistics, there was no increase on tanks or healers. Only the players who originally played tank or healers played those jobs.
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    Concerning the reason why they didn't do healers or tanks this expac. Based on their statistics, there was no increase on tanks or healers. Only the players who originally played tank or healers played those jobs.
    That was basically the issue. A small amount of tank players and healers did join but not enough to make noticable influence and majority of Dark Knight and Astro who stayed to play these Jobs were just players who already main a Tank and Healer Job.

    What Tank and healer Jobs need is to be interesting in gameplay. Vanity is not going to be enough to maintain a proper Tank and Healer population within group content. It may keep a lot of players to play tank for non-group content stuff but what we need is to solve the lack of tank and healers in group content as a long run issue.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 02-20-2017 at 03:32 AM.

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    Player Giubba's Avatar
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    Athmas Bloedornnsyn
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    That was basically the issue. A small amount of tank players and healers did join but not enough to make noticable influence and majority of Dark Knight and Astro who stayed to play these Jobs were just players who already main a Tank and Healer Job.

    What Tank and healer Jobs need is to be interesting in gameplay. Vanity is not going to be enough to maintain a proper Tank and Healer population within group content. It may keep a lot of players to play tank for non-group content stuff but what we need is to solve the lack of tank and healers in group content as a long run issue.
    Define "interesting gameplay" .

    Because gameplay wise any tank in any mmo worth oh his/her name will answer that the most interesting gameplay is the tank role regardless of the class.
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Giubba View Post
    Define "interesting gameplay" .

    Because gameplay wise any tank in any mmo worth oh his/her name will answer that the most interesting gameplay is the tank role regardless of the class.
    Also some of the most frustrating to.
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Giubba View Post
    Define "interesting gameplay" .

    Because gameplay wise any tank in any mmo worth oh his/her name will answer that the most interesting gameplay is the tank role regardless of the class.
    Mechanics that focus on taking damage would be nice for a change as one.

    For example, if a Tank Job loses a certain amount of HP they can access skills or they gain a increase in reduce damage the closer their HP is to 0.

    A lot of mechanics for Tank Jobs currently is focused around causing damage instead of taking damage.
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    Concerning the reason why they didn't do healers or tanks this expac. Based on their statistics, there was no increase on tanks or healers. Only the players who originally played tank or healers played those jobs.
    Thats the thing, people who wanted SAM as a tank were tanks themselves and dps who dont want their que times overflooded with other dps cause hehheh competition and long que times, spewing about there must be balance. Statistics don't lie on how many tank and how many dps.
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    Player Giubba's Avatar
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    Athmas Bloedornnsyn
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Also some of the most frustrating to.
    Yeah it's part of the package but now with this slap in our (tand & healers alike) collective faces what kind of support can we expect in the future?if any at all outside this class revamp which at this point i dread
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