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  1. #141
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    Xairos's Avatar
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    Xairos Karalis
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The thing about the DPS classes is that people will try it out, and then go back to what they like to do, be that healer or tank. The environment will re-adjust and correct itself. This isn't the end of the queue. This will be just like when NIN was released.
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  2. #142
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    Aeliott's Avatar
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    Official forums, a barrel of fun as always 9_9
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  3. #143
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    - the situation in Doma with the big city sounds a lot like Ishgard too. I mean how often will they play the "dont want strangers in their city" card?
    My guess: Its related to Japan history

    Sakoku (鎖国?, "closed country" but commonly translated as "period of national isolation") was the foreign relations policy of Japan under which severe restrictions were placed on the entry of foreigners to Japan and Japanese people were forbidden to leave the country without special permission, on penalty of death if they returned. The policy was enacted by the Tokugawa shogunate under Tokugawa Iemitsu through a number of edicts and policies from 1633–39 and largely remained officially in effect until 1866, although the arrival of the American Black Ships of Commodore Matthew Perry, which started the opening of Japan to Western trade, eroded its enforcement severely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

  4. #144
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    Esp's Avatar
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    It might be that they aren't going into it yet because they still have several months of development ahead of them where they can still change things. They wouldn't want to say something that they end up changing.

    I don't think we found out anything about the skill/combat in HW till only two months before HW launched.
    Agreeded, this could be it too as well. We've still got a long wait ahead of us.
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  5. #145
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    RaideDuku's Avatar
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    Raide Duku
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    Adamantoise
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.
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  6. #146
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    yeah i don't mind double dps, and was already expecting it. Since they mentioned the battle system changes, it was clear that adding a new healer or tank to the mix was going to make it considerably harder and i would rather see them bring the current 3 per in line before adding in more to the mix. Besides i do agree with them that most ppl that took up DRK or AST were already said role and as a standalone SAM has more mass appeal as a DPS class. That being said was kinda bummed that they didn't touch up on the battle system changes, but as others have pointed out, it could just not be ready to be shown off yet. (come on Yoshi!!!! give accuracy the axe it so clearly deserves! :P)
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  7. #147
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    But PotD scaling doesn't need to be above 60, it'll scale you back appropriately like it always has on earlier floors.
    but its very possible (and far more likely) that the exp gained from POTD past level 60 will not be significant enough to justify leveling through it, especially when we will have new dungeons, fates, and possibly other better ways to level.

    If I were the dev team, I would make sure that POTD would not be a viable choice for leveling. That would diminish the usefulness of the new areas almost entirely.
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  8. #148
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.
    Me personally, I am very happy for both of these as a new DPS job. I wasn't very fond of quite a few of the DPS choices and Heavensward really turned me off to a few others besides NIN. So having two more to actually select from is a godsend in my eyes.

    Can't wait to try them out. Hopefully I will main one as my new DPS job xD
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  9. #149
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    ZhaneX's Avatar
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    Zana Amariyo
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.
    So if the point is to build and maintain total balance, then does that mean that 5.0 will introduce 5 new jobs? :P
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  10. #150
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    Korbash's Avatar
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    Korbash Soucolline
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I'm quite happy that BOTH Red Mage and Samurai are DPS.

    Like I've said in a thread I created, there is a deep lack of DPS casters/mage in the game. There are 5 discipline of Magic jobs and 3 are healers and 2 are DPS. For those like me who love to play mage classes/jobs as DPS, you only get 2 here, which sucks. Actually, considering I started playing FF XIV ARR in the closed beta, Arcanists (SMN and SCH) were not in the closed beta, or at launch, so there was only 1 disciple of magic in the closed beta, or at lauch, I could play: Black Mage. Which is exactly what I started with, and I was quite depressed over that... just 1 mage DPS?

    There is also a deep lack of swords DPS jobs in the game. Both Paladin and Dark Knight are tank, and even the axe weapon is a tank job, which I also play by the way, mostly to help guildies out, and I don't care about the rest of the players and I'm not helping them out in any way.

    The main melee class I like to play is assassin/burglar/thief/rogue/ninja or whatever name they get in games and MMOs, with 2 daggers and stealth and back stabbing. Ninja was added the a 2.X patch which I was happy about.

    The second melee DPS I like to play is sword class but so far all of them have been tank. So I'm sure I'm not the only one who wanted to play a sword DPS job as wel.l

    As for those complaining about queue time, we're used to it, I read books, I also watch anime, movies, tv shows, takes notes, etc. You're the ones who are probably bored and don't know what to do with yourself while queuing.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.

    Pretty much agree with you. There are TOO MANY tanks and healers and not enough of the others: INT and STR, no matter how many tanks and healers can complain about it. After Stormblood the jobs will be balanced, right now they're not.
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    Last edited by Korbash; 02-18-2017 at 09:20 PM.

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