My issues with PvP

[Atrayl]

I also want to say that this community seems to be very hostile so far. Please stop with the "git good" posts. Not only do they add nothing of value to the discussion, but they aren't even applicable here.

The issue is that no matter how "good" any single player can "git," level of coordination required for PUGs that cannot even communicate to counteract the existence of a single healer is unfeasible. This causes an inherently imbalanced dynamic that makes the experience for the PUG player miserable.

Most people who PvP in MMOs do so casually in a PUG. That is where 90%+ of your PvP playership would come from if SE wanted to actually branch out into that market. All I'm saying is that, if they do, then the current PvP design will simply not resonate with that group of people and that playstyle.

[Llus]

Please stop with the "git good" posts.

Look, the Healers are OP threads have been going on for ages. If it isn't AST it's WHM, if it isn't WHM it's SCH. Before you come talking about how OP healers are in PVP, take some time to learn what your PvP burst is. I guarantee that if you do that, you'll be able to solo healers around 80% of the time - the other 20% got gud

[Atrayl]

Look, the Healers are OP threads have been going on for ages. If it isn't AST it's WHM, if it isn't WHM it's SCH. Before you come talking about how OP healers are in PVP, take some time to learn what your PvP burst is. I guarantee that if you do that, you'll be able to solo healers around 80% of the time - the other 20% got gud

I know what my burst is. It's not good enough. In dozens and dozens of hours of gameplay, I have yet to see a healer die in the Feast. I rarely see anyone die, for that matter. Just people plunking away at one another, running back when they get to 5% health to be healed to 100% with a single spell. It's out of control.

[Enlial]

I know what my burst is. It's not good enough. In dozens and dozens of hours of gameplay, I have yet to see a healer die in the Feast. I rarely see anyone die, for that matter. Just people plunking away at one another, running back when they get to 5% health to be healed to 100% with a single spell. It's out of control.

Hold up. "Dozens and dozens of hours of gameplay" in feast? Since a game lasts all of 8 minutes I take it then you have several hundred matches under your belt? And people "rarely" die? Don't draws count towards the garo mount? I can't say I'm sure since I've only seen draws in feast a few times, in my own several hundreds of matches played.

Going to go out on a limb here, but sounds like you're tossing around hyperbole to support your arguements

[Ama_Hamada]

Hold up. "Dozens and dozens of hours of gameplay" in feast? Since a game lasts all of 8 minutes I take it then you have several hundred matches under your belt? And people "rarely" die? Don't draws count towards the garo mount? I can't say I'm sure since I've only seen draws in feast a few times, in my own several hundreds of matches played.

Going to go out on a limb here, but sounds like you're tossing around hyperbole to support your arguements

I would agree in feeling that way. I do not think people can make claims like this without first spending several hundred hours on EACH JOB! I did not feel like calling them out since it would only cause them to get defensive replies but since you done so, i see no harm in saying I suspect such things as well, I hope he addresses my other post in full though.