My issues with PvP

[Ama_Hamada]

#1A - Healing is fine, DPS in FL usually uses PvE rotation resulting in a stun resist healer.

#1B - 6+ DPS on 1 healer should be almost an instant kill, again bad DPS - if you don't know your PvP burst you're not going to kill much of anything

#1C Very good healers in feast will almost never die(once or twice) during a match, that's just the facts of life. However, even the best healers run out of cooldowns and MP and you should be coordinating your bursts on squishy DPS, tanks that over stack and mele that pop blood for blood and extend too far into enemy lines

#2 - RNG based matches do tend to favor the "let them fight" crowd, so unless your team pays attention to the score, the turtles tend to win. Even if your team is really good; RNG can win the game. - This is part of #3

#3 see #2

#4 You also gain points for killing and if many players on your team gets fever/high early you tend to become unstoppable. This requires good DPS and good healers keeping those fevers/highs alive

#5 premades have been in existence since PvP became a thing, if you can't beat 'em; join 'em. premade groups are just as susceptible to RNG as the rest of us so it's possible to beat a premade through avoidance, gaining your own fevers/highs against stragglers and other members of the GC the premade is on and playing objectives

#6 - Nex Cross - u just got to git gud

This and sch healing is too weak in pvp, not too strong. Stop trying to kill healers that know what they are doing and focus more on DPS that have no defenses, like SMN, BLM, BRD, MCH..... , more so when one of those 4 overextend. Ever see how quick a BLM can go down that is not paying attention? My friends got yelled by one once. That person ended up being hated by the whole party since one of my friends explained to the BLM people where running back when that BLM stood there, being a target. Everyone was running back and the person furthest out was that BLM. I saw the video as well, you are not going to find a healer to react heal that, esp with people scattered while my friends try to figure out the most likely burst target. They went from full to half hp in one hit basically, then split seconds later, dead, any cast time heal would of not hit them off reaction.

If you can't kill someone in PvP because of healers it has to do with the following:
Lack of CC on the healer
Lack of knowledge of the burst rotation in PvP
Lack of coordination of 2+ people while ^ that is an issue
The healer is skilled and knows how to precure and predict bursts in PvP

today a mch and war (maybe a 3rd I was not sure) made a decent attempt on trying to burst me down. When I was binded and I heard that all too familiar sound of it being from a MCH, I knew what was coming next. I was ready for it, I was ready to use dissipation if needed. They gave up after I Attunement on them and backed up far enough for them to stop chasing me since I lived though the burst. Should a second MCH bursted on me on top of that I would not of lived due to being useless after healing like that as a SCH.

PvP has balance issues but healing as a whole is not one of them, also my healing potency is about 1/2 what is is in the real world, nice try on that claim.

[Atrayl]

If you can't kill someone in PvP because of healers it has to do with the following:
Lack of CC on the healer
Lack of knowledge of the burst rotation in PvP
Lack of coordination of 2+ people while ^ that is an issue
The healer is skilled and knows how to precure and predict bursts in PvP

Again, it is a fundamental design flaw and imbalance that an entire team, that cannot communicate, needs to be able to work together in perfect unison simply to be able to counter the effects of one player. Healers are too strong. Healers are too integral to a fight.

"Count healers, determine winner." It's broken and unfun.

[Ama_Hamada]

Again, it is a fundamental design flaw and imbalance that an entire team, that cannot communicate, needs to be able to work together in perfect unison simply to be able to counter the effects of one player. Healers are too strong. Healers are too integral to a fight.

"Count healers, determine winner." It's broken and unfun.

So healers need to be made useless because of a bad change decision in removing chat. Makes sense.

"Count MCH/BRD who know how to burst to determine winner" it's broken and unfun

Lets remove Black mages, summoners, and scholars while we are at it.

If you've never seen a healer die in the Feast I suggest you get an eye check or report someone using an invincibility hack. Unless the team is reasonably well coordinated & other players are protecting the healer they will, & do, die regularly. I simply cannot believe your claim that healers cannot be killed.

good Healers can't be killed by subpar DPS, just asked the 3 I dragged away from our main group to allow my team to get free kills

To the TC: In case you did not know, a single healer can't heal a 8 v8 due to the amount of CC, soon that healer gets CCed the team with them is doomed. 2 is best and 3 or more lacks damage. It has nothing to do with "more healers = more chance to win" I have solo healed 8 people matches before from the other team was so poor and lack coordination (or in the case of front line, mainly from the other 2 teams going at it with each other). Maybe you are better off complaining about the no chat?

[Khalithar]

So healers need to be made useless.

I will say straight up (and I've always been upfront about this) I personally think PVP would be better with no healing. However, if we absolutely must have healing in PVP, all I want is for a team with no healers to have just as much a chance to win as a team with healers. Now, as for how we can make that feasible, I don't know, I'm not a game designer and I don't claim to have all the answers. Nor do I think that removing healers would suddenly increase my win rate either, but I can say that I have been in plenty of situations (and I'm sure others have as well) where they only lost because the other team had healers when your's did not. If we suddenly removed healing, it would put everyone on equal footing and prevent anyone from having that advantage.