Are SCHs weak?

[Arisato]

As title stated above. I've never seen a SCH from unranked to gold perform decent at all. Is there a certain playstyle they have to approach? Or are they just underpowered.

[Culfinrandir]

Not underpowered at all, just need to be used in a certain way. A lot of people have a go at me when I suggest a better way to play SCH in PVP (reddit practically burned down my home XD). I think a lot of value lies in the 'bonus' effects of spells & the like (some refer to it as crowd control I think), alongside the healing, but apparently that's not acceptable in PVP where healing is the only thing you are allowed to do. It's preferable to stand around idle than use a non-heal action, or so I've had drummed into me.

[Murph]

Try killing Rum Raisin...

[Makavelii]

Scholar in PvP Kappa - SCH Main

[Makavelii]

Everyone knows SCH is by far the weakest Healer for PvP.. Please don't steer this poor soul in the wrong direction

[Aviars]

Scholar is the weakest in s3

In s1 and s2 scholar got stronger as the season progressed when more of the good players stopped queing. The worse the dps got on a team, the better adlo shields become. Pmuch why scholars always jumped up in the ranked by the latter half of those seasons.

[Slib]

Scholar is the weakest in s3

In s1 and s2 scholar got stronger as the season progressed when more of the good players stopped queing. The worse the dps got on a team, the better adlo shields become. Pmuch why scholars always jumped up in the ranked by the latter half of those seasons.

I don't think it's more so adlo being better because dps got worse than it is people breaking WHM sleeps randomly due to no common sense. Regen would be even better if DPS got worse because it would out heal their damage in that case.

[Kai_Lee]

Try killing Rum Raisin...

Rum is exceptionally good, but Rum is the only sch on the top 100 on the primal DC and the only sch on the primal DC? I don't remember being in a team with any other sch. I strongly think sch needs more CC abilities.

[Aviars]

I don't think it's more so adlo being better because dps got worse than it is people breaking WHM sleeps randomly due to no common sense. Regen would be even better if DPS got worse because it would out heal their damage in that case.

Regen ticks are subject to overhealing, the shields are not. Also when the dps got worse, melee lb and things like brd burst become more important and game changing, and adlo can effectively nullify it better against bad dps that can't follow through.

I mean, think of it this way, regen allows you to get into mercy stroke range, adlo won't.

[Kyani]

Scholar is really hampered by the lack of scope of The Feast - things like Regen & Repose get better the fewer attackers there are; whereas Scholar's higher potency direct heals (~800 potency / gcd, before lustrate) get better as incoming damage increases. There's nothing actually wrong with Scholar in PvP specifically (just PvE things like raising with no pet or Aetherflow) but it will always suffer in the environment of Feast because Feast's sustained damage simply isn't high enough relative to burst for its strengths to show.

That said, give Scholar / Summoner their Heavy back. There's no reason for it to not be available when SCH and SMN are widely percieved as the weakest in their roles.