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    Cylestea's Avatar
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    Luna Shadowmoon
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    In all honesty, as a SCH especially which is the OP'S case, it's just much more efficient for those that want to slot Cleric first to be a viable option. Lower level dungeons don't hit as hard, plus you have a automatic healing bot that pretty much won't ever let your tank see less than 50%. The less enemies that are hitting your tank, the less damage your tank is taking, so why not?

    Plus, it not a bad habit when it's ONLY the first three dungeons that it's possible to do this.
    LIES i seen the healer MANY TIMES let me drop down to around 10% by refusing prot over c stance and letting a fairy heal before they heal me I rather a defesive boost over a healers small damage boost you get below lvl 20. really doing 3-5 dps more isnt worth almost killing your tank
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestea View Post
    LIES i seen the healer MANY TIMES let me drop down to around 10% by refusing prot over c stance and letting a fairy heal before they heal me I rather a defesive boost over a healers small damage boost you get below lvl 20. really doing 3-5 dps more isnt worth almost killing your tank
    I know I can confirm that the fairy has healed the whole run and I never left clerics once, as for copperbell I think I cast 1 or 2 cures. When I am on AST be prepared to go to 10-20% every time essential dignity is up :P As this is all I find myself doing in sastasha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Copperbell Mines, GLA, 395 HP, Naked, No Protect
    Minimum coblyn damage: 50
    Maximum coblyn damage: 54
    Coblyn hits to kill tank: 8-8

    Copperbell Mines, GLA, 395 HP, Naked, With Protect
    Minimum coblyn damage: 50
    Maximum coblyn damage: 55
    Coblyn hits to kill tank: 8-8

    Difference in damage between -Protect and +Protect: None
    Effect of protect on tank survivability: None



    Copperbell Mines, PLD, 629 HP, Gear Sync, No Protect
    Minimum coblyn damage: 35
    Maximum coblyn damage: 38
    Coblyn hits to kill tank: 17-18


    Copperbell Mines, PLD, 629 HP, Gear Sync, With Protect
    Minimum coblyn damage: 32
    Maximum coblyn damage: 35
    Coblyn hits to kill tank: 18-20

    Difference in damage between -Protect and +Protect: 3 damage (10%)
    Effect of protect on tank survivability: 0-2 hits



    Since tanks in Sastasha/Tam-tara/Copperbell will fall somewhere between these two scenarios, we can conclude that Protect will buy a tank between 0 and 2 extra hits.

    The lower the tank's defense and HP, the closer this will be to 0.

    The more damage a mob does per attack, the closer this will be to 0. Consider for example, a mob that hits a 629HP tank for 100 damage per hit. It can kill the tank with seven 100dmg hits, and it would still take seven hits if the damage were reduced as much as 10%.



    Meanwhile, an AST with gear sync in Sastasha goes from dealing 37-40 damage per Malefic to 68-72, a gain of 80%-84%. This is not negligible. Expect the damage gain to increase with higher syncks.



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    Copperbell Mines, GLA, 395 HP, Naked, No Protect



    Copperbell Mines, GLA, 395 HP, Naked, With Protect



    Copperbell Mines, PLD, 629 HP, Gear Sync, No Protect



    Copperbell Mines, PLD, 629 HP, Gear Sync, With Protect



    [u]Sastasha, AST, Gear Sync[u]



    Thanks for providing this Rongway, although I'm still shocked that someone had to even go this far
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 02-17-2017 at 11:04 AM.