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  1. #11
    Player
    aesteval's Avatar
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    With the 2nd chance points putting it in WT won't help much if people don't want to do that content.
    It depends on whether or not people would be willing to put the time in to run it over WT content or not. I see a limited window where it could draw some people in. How many or how often? Who knows.
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  2. #12
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Scarlett Dzian
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I'm actually shocked and a bit disappointed SE hasn't done anything with the dungeon. A solo version isn't a bad, I remember 90% of the repeat players having ZERO patience for new players. If I didn't rush as a tank people would vote kick me, so it was non-option every run is a speed run. ;
    To be honest that's true with everything in the game. everything is SPEEEDRUNS ONRY!!

    in 3.4 I got kicked from library hard mode on my first run. cos I was stopping and reading the books and having a little laugh at the extracts within... because the 10-15 seconds it takes to read is tooooo much waiting.. not even 36 hours into the patch.....

    I once got kicked from sastasha in ARR cos I was going to all the optional rooms for the mapping achievement. people complained when I did the same in hauke manor one time..... the whole game is speed runs so it swhouldnt be remptely suprising to see it in the msq roulette
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  3. #13
    Player
    Felis's Avatar
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    Character
    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Panda View Post
    Main scenario roulette only gives poetics, right?

    By the time you hit WT, poetics is meaningless. If you are a Tank farming full party instances, might as well do trial roulette.

    And like someone always stated, you have more than enough options to complete WT. I had no trouble doing WT even before I unlocked Alexander and HW EX primals.
    Crystal Tower also only give Poetics (and lv 50 gear and weekly aether oil) and is still in WT
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  4. #14
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Character
    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I would say leave it out. There were a lot of threads about people ruining the experience of new players asking them to skip cutscenes and whatever. Would just make that problem even worse if it is put in WT.
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  5. #15
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Maybe if it counted for more than 1 sticker? As it is the fastest route for me is the 4 dungeons (1 unsycnd), 4 ARR primals and HW primal.
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  6. #16
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    ZioSerpe's Avatar
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    Character
    Vanessa Zio
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I do Main Scenario roulette everyday to level up all my jobs, I totally understand the speed running, is one of 2 places everyday. One might say expert roulette is the same, but the difference is Expert roulette can give you from a little to an ok challenge depending on your ilvl and skill as a player; Main Scenario doesn't.
    When I did these 2 scenarios for my MSQ some months ago I just watched the cutscenes while people cleared the place and didn't care about helping. At the time I didn't know about the book thing where you can rewatch the cutscenes, I would have skipped them and watched them later had I known.
    Point is, I am not willing to wait for other people watching the cutscenes, is at best 1 or 2 people per run than need it, and sometimes not even those, and the scenario can be completed without their help probably.
    Is boring, is a chore and I'll drop it as soon as I get everything to 60... then probably pick it back up in stormblood when I'll be leveling everything to 70.
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  7. #17
    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    Character
    Deionarra Eidolon
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle View Post
    Queue time are getting ridiculous, been 25min and im a healer, this need more traffic.
    As others have said, this likely has a lot to do with the time / day you are queuing. While admittedly anecdotal, I played from level 1 to Heavensward over the past month and a half (as a healer), and never once waited for more than 15 minutes on a queue.

    I'd also caution against rash action based on what is, in reality, a rather small wait time. The more rewards given for the Main Scenario Roulette, the less patient people are going to be with new players - which isn't a good outcome, either. SE should be trying to strike a balance between wait times and relaxed, friendly veterans populating the DF. I'd say they've done a decent job so far. If the wait times worsen considerably (30+ minutes on average for Ifrit, say), maybe it'll be time to do something. Until then, I think a bit of judicious restraint is the right move.

    Edit: Was thinking of the Leveling Roulette; removed a reference to Main Scenario Roulette being involved with WT already. I still stand by my second paragraph, though.
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    Last edited by Vhailor; 02-16-2017 at 07:19 PM.

  8. #18
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    It really just needs to be redesigned into a solo instance and just ultima normal in trail roullete. How people are treated in msq is ridiculous and I try to never use it.
    They just need to delete the MSQ roulette, make the 2 dungeons 4man like the facility and put it in the lvl 50 roulette.
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  9. #19
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Delete main scenario roulette and have both give 150 poetics problem solved. This way it encourages people who are farming poetics for whatever reason to do them 2 dungeons. Also remove all cutscenes and place them at the end of the dungeon.

    Same with expert roulette it isn't a roulette anymore its 2 dungeons. At the very least leave the older 2 in so we have 4 or combine it all with 60 and just increase the bonus.
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  10. #20
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    Texa's Avatar
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    Character
    Texa Yuu
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    If they just added a daily lore reward for it people would run it more.
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