This game has seriously messed up RNG

[Stormfur]

I used it a LOT when getting the Lumina stuff in 2.0 because the battlecraft or fieldcraft or whatever it was, was prohibitively expensive to just lose if RNG didn't favor you that run.

[XiXiQ]

well, as I said, I have no idea if RNG is mathematcally wrong, and it's unlikely to be. It's the heavy reliance on it that's the real issue. 50-100 is insignificant on its own - but to see the same pattern repeated week after week, over many 1000's is begging incredulity. At this stage I'm not even complaining because my crafts fail, I'm at the stage where the failure rate simply doesn't affect it much. It's still obviously there, though.

[Aramina]

So you don't want actual random in your RANDOM number generator. K.

[Fawkes]

So you don't want actual random in your RANDOM number generator. K.

Not sure why you can't wrap your head around it. I don't want a system where one person can get their atma from the first fate and another person has to do 200 fates for the same atma. I don't want it to be arbitrarily unfair for the sake of being "good" RNG.

[Aramina]

Not sure why you can't wrap your head around it. I don't want a system where one person can get their atma from the first fate and another person has to do 200 fates for the same atma. I don't want it to be arbitrarily unfair for the sake of being "good" RNG.

I understand fine, however, it seems you don't. Random is neither good, nor bad. It just... is. That's how math works.

edit: If you want a system other than RNG that is fine, but this talk of good RNG and bad RNG needs to stop :P

[worldofneil]

I don't want a system where one person can get their atma from the first fate and another person has to do 200 fates for the same atma.

But you could be that first fate person! Maybe!

[Fawkes]

I understand fine, however, it seems you don't. Random is neither good, nor bad. It just... is. That's how math works.

edit: If you want a system other than RNG that is fine, but this talk of good RNG and bad RNG needs to stop :P

No, you do not understand. Computers cannot be completely random, so "good" RNG and "bad" RNG is referring to how closely they resemble actual randomness. When I say I want "bad" RNG I'm not not asking for RNG that stays out late at night and doesn't eat its vegetables. I want the game to take failures into account. I want the displayed percentages to better match our expectations, rather than telling people they just have confirmation bias and RNG is RNG.

[MistakeNot]

Not sure why you can't wrap your head around it. I don't want a system where one person can get their atma from the first fate and another person has to do 200 fates for the same atma. I don't want it to be arbitrarily unfair for the sake of being "good" RNG.

That is not entirely unreasonable. What you want is something that isn't truely random, but more like "random-appearing, but not TOO random" that does take into account history so that long streaks of bad luck (or good luck) don't show up.
One MAJOR problem with implementing that is that you would need to track the state for every combination of <character> and <rng-based task>. That will be a LOT of data to keep track of, unlike today where the RNG just needs a single, global, state to do its work.

[Rizon]

RNG has its places. It is appropriate for lotting on loot. It is not appropriate for crafting to the extent that SE employs it. IMO your success rate for something like Hasty Hand should be influenced by the craft level and your level and your Craftsmanship/Control levels. The higher your personal numbers the greater success you should have, consistently. My non specialist numbers are 1005/955. In infuriates me when I blow 3 straight Hasty Hands on a level 20 craft. BTW if you notice RNG is not completely random but the pattern of success to failure varies at a noticeable rate.

[Lexia]

RNG has its places. It is appropriate for lotting on loot. It is not appropriate for crafting to the extent that SE employs it. IMO your success rate for something like Hasty Hand should be influenced by the craft level and your level and your Craftsmanship/Control levels. The higher your personal numbers the greater success you should have, consistently. My non specialist numbers are 1005/955. In infuriates me when I blow 3 straight Hasty Hands on a level 20 craft. BTW if you notice RNG is not completely random but the pattern of success to failure varies at a noticeable rate.

You gear does influence your crafting ability, there are more rotation out there then just ones that use hasty touch, your craftmanship, control and cp all determine what rotation you can use.