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  1. #11
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Crysten Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    If it has been clearly advertised as being a lootmaster party in the description, then no, it wouldn't be considered cheating in the slightest.

    People failing to read these is not uncommon but why would the blame fall onto the party leader in this case? If you don't accept the terms of the party, then don't friggin' join it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    RubyCirha's Avatar
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    Ruby Cirha
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    Coeurl
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    Monk Lv 73
    It's just consider dodgy at best I meen it's like hey join my party help me get my mount and if I feel like it I might help you for a few runs then fake DC or say I have something else to do and yes that's happened to me in the past it sucks and I don't trust loot master party's for this reason best option is greed only party's or just normal loot rules
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  3. #13
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    That's a ridiculous way of viewing it. For one, while this perception of trust is nice and all, the reasons of creating a group through PF is business, you are there to do a thing and get a thing. Which, secondly, anyone can make a group through PF. That people assume the one who went through the effort to make and collect the people for the group then has to put aside their own want, when everyone else merely joined, is some backwards logic.
    Which is why I said moral perogative lol, strictly moral, no business.
    Seriously, do people to expect to trust a complete random stranger who has the power to control what they get rewarded to carry through with their promise? And it looks especially bad if the lootmaster is also the person who self allocated the loot. Its all a matter of perspective, I'm merely explaining the thought process of the people reporting that FC leader for cheating.
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  4. #14
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    When I join a PF, I accept the rules. If I don't like the rules, I don't join. Plain simple.

    If your master has accused and reported, he can make a good laugh at it, as long as PF master is king. The children that joined without read the rules but complaining about them later, that have to be reported for being so childish they don't meet the minimal age requirement of the game.
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  5. #15
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    While it's not cheating, i don't consider it moral and just pure greed.
    How is it greedy (or immoral, as another post wrote) to get the first reward yourself in exchange for organizing the party and then giving the rest of the rewards first come first serve? That's pretty much the epitome of fair and the opposite of greedy.
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  6. #16
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Seraph
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    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    How is it greedy (or immoral, as another post wrote) to get the first reward yourself in exchange for organizing the party and then giving the rest of the rewards first come first serve? That's pretty much the epitome of fair and the opposite of greedy.
    Because like how there is a very obvious lack of ability to read in this community at times, so is there the lack of understanding what one has written as well.
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  7. #17
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    Llus's Avatar
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    Agret Fury
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    While it's not cheating, i don't consider it moral and just pure greed.
    Nobody forces you to join parties with lootmaster rule. If it's clearly stated that it's lootmaster and you don't like it, make your own party. Ohh and hey, as the party leader; you have the right - morally and under the rules of the game - to choose lootmaster, greed only or normal looting rules.
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  8. #18
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arielyanna View Post
    he took it, with the intention that the next whistle would go to the next person who joined.
    One of the most important questions could be:

    Did he abadon/leave the party after this drop or did he continue for the others?
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  9. #19
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    Louvain Eventide
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Originally, I was quite against lootmaster, but thinking back I've had people join my free for all parties, take the bird, and ditch asap which is just as bad because then you're going to have to fill that spot again (probably with someone else who doesn't have the mount and who might pull the same exact thing). The risk of doing free for all vs lootmaster isn't any more or less.
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  10. #20
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Honestly, PF is there to make your own rules, so whatever rules the Party Leader intends to set goes. By joining, you agree to those terms.

    So yeah...don't join, make your own group with different rules and see which fills first.
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