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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Is Benediction still worth a 5 minute CD?

    With recent healer discussion and current content in the game, I'm finding it harder and harder to find warrant why this ability needs to be on such a long CD.

    The only positive to it is that it's still usable through Cleric Stance and healing debuffs. Other than that, it has an extremely annoying delay in it's effect and a excessively long CD meaning you probably won't use it again for the duration of the fight.

    Not to mention if a Tank is in this much danger of dying that Benediction is needed, your co-healer would most likely have popped their relevant insta heal too, resulting in Benediction being wasted in a way.

    I'm not denying the ability isn't strong of course, but 5 minutes for a simple full heal when essential dignity and Lustrate can get very close to the same results and be used much more often seems overkill.
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    Not to mention if a Tank is in this much danger of dying that Benediction is needed, your co-healer would most likely have popped their relevant insta heal too, resulting in Benediction being wasted in a way.
    Nah Co-healer should be busy dpsing :P
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    If we didn't have Tetra, I would say the CD on benediction should be reduced to bring parity with other healers. But... we do have Tetra, so I think this one part of white mage is OK.
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    Just needs to get rid of the animation lock, same for the tank mega cds
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    Really, be thankful it's only five minutes! It could be like it how it was in the old days in FFXI when it was on a two-hour long cooldown! It's meant to be an 'emergency' heal to throw on the tank in a hurry, not a main part of your healing kit. So I don't see SE ever changing this I'm afraid.
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    Thank god FFXIV it's a different game and it's not FFXI, so FFXI shouldn't take part into this conversation.

    Benediction as an emergency heal sucks, it's bad, it's terrible, it's only useful when you are in cleric and you don't want to drop cleric. If you want an emergency heal as a WHM you have tetra. Benediction needs to have the animation delay removed to be considered a good emergency heal and even then maybe dropping the cooldown to 4 minutes wouldn't be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Thank god FFXIV it's a different game and it's not FFXI, so FFXI shouldn't take part into this conversation.
    Hey look, another person that's triggered by the mentioned of FFXI for some odd reason.

    They were making a comparison to a previous similar game in the series and saying it could be worse, if benediction were like that. Sounds like a decent part of the conversation to me.

    At 5 minutes though I forget to even use benediction most of the time though. I mostly use it when using holy in dungeons and the tank gets a little too close to dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisengrim View Post
    Hey look, another person that's triggered by the mentioned of FFXI for some odd reason.

    They were making a comparison to a previous similar game in the series and saying it could be worse, if benediction were like that. Sounds like a decent part of the conversation to me.

    At 5 minutes though I forget to even use benediction most of the time though. I mostly use it when using holy in dungeons and the tank gets a little too close to dying.
    Not so much triggered as much as trying to keep the thread on topic. It would be like saying. "Thank god this isn't the original FF1 you could only do cure 4, 5 times! Be happy you have a mp pool to do more cures!".

    I personally like benediction mostly as is for the same reasons other have stated about the instant top off for DRK. I also like it for when you're trying to let your tank get near death so you can squeeze out as much dps as you can in a dungeon and then take them back to full health in a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisengrim View Post
    Hey look, another person that's triggered by the mentioned of FFXI for some odd reason.

    They were making a comparison to a previous similar game in the series.
    The only similar thing between Ff14 and FF11 is their name and atmosphere
    In term of gameplay, FF14 is much closer to WoW than it is to FF11. So the comparison between these two games makes very little sens.
    We could also compare FF13 to FF tactic
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    Last edited by Sylvain; 02-26-2017 at 01:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    The only similar thing between Ff14 and FF11 is their name and atmosphere
    In term of gameplay, FF14 is much closer to WoW than it is to FF11. So the comparison between these two games makes very little sens.
    We could also compare FF13 to FF tactic
    -The targeting system is practically taken from FFXI.
    -This game has a lot of moves and effects inspired or copied from FFXI.
    -The concept of "auto attack" was added into this game during 1.0 era after release because people liked it from FFXI and the game received criticism for it's lack of.
    -The concept of "weakened" was directly taken from FFXI.

    This is really just the tip of the iceberg as well. Yes, this game is a lot different than FFXI and it isn't FFXI, but comparisons can be valid depending on the situation since this game takes a lot from FFXI.
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    Last edited by KokonoeAiyoko; 03-17-2017 at 10:54 PM.

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