Is DPS'ing as a Healer Vote Kickable?

[Lambdafish]

Due to the current meta though, I am not sure if additional utility would even be welcome. Say healers could inflict things like physical/magical vulnerability down, or increase resistances to certain elements and physical damage, I am not even sure they would be worth the gcd. One time I mentioned giving WHMs an AoE cleanse, and most people said they can't even think of an instance where it would be useful. So I dunno.

You could really lump PLD into this problem too. It has lots of utility which is great, but everyone is like "nah, DPS is better, learn to play without the utility" I feel like healer DPS needs to be in a way that enhances raid DPS (like balance).

[Masekase_Hurricane]

It doesn't matter how busy they make the healer, even if they added more debuffs,damage etc. A good healer will still look for other openings and ways to push their job further.

[Lambdafish]

It doesn't matter how busy they make the healer, even if they added more debuffs,damage etc. A good healer will still look for other openings and ways to push their job further.

Which is a GOOD THING. Tanks find ways to push DPS in raids by having complex stance swapping, but not stance swapping often doesn't make you a bad tank, not using your DPS skills and cooldowns does, healers going above and beyond to squeeze a bit more out of their rotation is nothing new. Healers should still have more to do besides DPS when they aren't direct healing (even if it involves more healer mechanics).

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Which is a GOOD THING. Tanks find ways to push DPS in raids by having complex stance swapping, but not stance swapping often doesn't make you a bad tank, not using your DPS skills and cooldowns does, healers going above and beyond to squeeze a bit more out of their rotation is nothing new. Healers should still have more to do besides DPS when they aren't direct healing (even if it involves more healer mechanics).

Healers in FFXI were much more busy we had more buffs/debuffs/enhancements etc. In XI it was 1 healer managing 5 people and still the healer had time to throw out dps. One of the reasons some healers wont risk dpsing is the 5sec wait to switch back. Out of curiosity what else would you give them.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

This healer being SCH. With shields, heals, fairy micro-management, and aetherflow management, this is one busy job, and if it wasn't for their fairies, they would have very little time to DPS.

Nope without the fairy you just described AST and we have time to dps.

[Gemina]

Nope without the fairy you just described AST and we have time to dps.

Heal with SCH without the fairy, and then let me know if you have time to DPS.

[Rita1989]

Heal with SCH without the fairy, and then let me know if you have time to DPS.

That would still be pretty easy you underestimate how easy healing is in dungeons throw up an adlo and you have plenty of time to dps

[Schark]

I stopped healing in this game because of, in my opinion, how poorly designed it is. It's more hybrid than healer. Spending so much time DPSing, I figured it better to just switch to a full time DPSer with a better kit for the role.
The last census showed an increase in DPS players compared to a perfect ratio in previous censuses. I wouldn't be surprised if others felt the same way I do.

I'd love to heal but until fights bump up the healing game, I'll weather the DPS queues.

Make Healing Great Again!

[Neophyte]

I stopped healing in this game because of, in my opinion, how poorly designed it is. It's more hybrid than healer. Spending so much time DPSing, I figured it better to just switch to a full time DPSer with a better kit for the role.
The last census showed an increase in DPS players compared to a perfect ratio in previous censuses. I wouldn't be surprised if others felt the same way I do.

I'd love to heal but until fights bump up the healing game, I'll weather the DPS queues.

Make Healing Great Again!

Yes, we noticed the increase of mediocre dps, who are not used to use a skill every 2,5s and don't monitor the effectivness of their rotation.

[Yeol]

A healer should dps if they can.

Some situations will make it very hard to dps even if the healer is good.
- Under geared tank.
- Tank not using proper CDs.
- Party members not dodging AoE and dying.
- Taking too long to kill ads/bosses (Results in more damage taken and therefore more healing).

There are other reasons but this is what I've experienced while playing a healer.
So the performance of the party will affect on the healers dps.

(1) If you have a terrible party, the healer will be carrying you.
(2) If you have a great party and the healer is not dpsing then the healer is being carried by the party.

Sadly you can't do anything to fix (1) but in (2) you'll make party even greater by dpsing.