Is DPS'ing as a Healer Vote Kickable?

[Nixxe]

If I have nothing to heal, what else am I supposed to do? I can run around in circles, jumping and being a distraction all day, but I suspect helping to kill things faster is more constructive. Besides, that's very much in line with healing. By reducing the amount of time the mob is alive, you reduce the amount of damage it deals to the tank. You're helping to prevent a need for healing! DPS is basically an absorb effect. In conclusion, if absorb effects are not allowed for healers, then kick all the scholars and nocturnal sect astrologians, regardless of what they're doing. :^)

[Aramina]

I main a healer so I don't have a ton of experience running with other healers in dungeons... but on the rare occassion I dps I don't really care what the healer does (I do wonder what they are doing... or not doing but I wouldn't kick someone over it). THAT SAID, honestly.... how can you stand it? I would be bored absolutely to tears if I just stood there casting a heal every 30 seconds or so... how do you keep from losing your collective minds just standing there for 90% of the time.

[Clethoria]

Pages and pages of the same back and forth argument that's been done several times over.

It's either this, casual vs hardcore, general whining, or booty butt cheeks. Whenever I see Dev Tracker, the most activity seems to come from the JP/EU side. I wonder, just what it is they're talking about over there that can garner more attention or is this a sign that the English speaking devs are saying they don't care, nothing will change and all this trash talk should be put to rest.

Forward and back and forward and back and then go forward and back of "No I'm right you're wrong!" and since nobody wants to read 16 and counting pages of it, it starts anew with someone who skimmed the first and decided to post. Can anyone not just come to an understanding that the vocal minority of the forums isn't going to affect the people having fun in game? There is no push for it, so the same 4-5 people chasing each other's tails in a circle is going to remain as such.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Yes and No...

If the healer is failing at healing because they're too busy DPSing, and it happens multiple times, I'd say there's valid reason to start thinking about a kick...

But just for throwing in some DPS while healing isn't required, nobody should be mad at that.

[Fevelle]

Pro-tip: stop taking DF seriously and stop stressing over people's playstyle.

[Clethoria]

Pro-tip: stop taking DF seriously and stop stressing over people's playstyle.

All these months of playing and I still don't get why people just dont find or form a FC to do this kind of stuff with. Hell, even a Party Finder with "Healer must DPS" will make it clear without running into the character limit.

[Kikoten]

I'll DPS as a healer when I'm 100% confident that nobody is going to eat a big attack and die the moment I activate Cleric Stance.

Yes, that has happened, more times than I'd like to count. If there were no Cleric Stance, and healing and damage were both based on Mind, it might be easier for me to quickly go back to healing when someone eats a big one.

[DPZ2]

Yes, that has happened, more times than I'd like to count. If there were no Cleric Stance, and healing and damage were both based on Mind, it might be easier for me to quickly go back to healing when someone eats a big one.

I am just curios about something (and, Kikoten, this has nothing to do with your post, so don't consider it a pro or con reply):

If the "community" expects healers to DPS, why should the healer be charged with doing maximum damage via Cleric Stance, rather than just some damage without it?

My reasoning behind Cleric Stance as a skill is that SE didn't want to penalize healers during the Main Story quests, so gave them a way to keep Mind as a primary stat while also being able to Kill Things in solo mode in a reasonable amount of time.

That reasoning doesn't apply to group content, where the DPS is expected to Kill Things in a reasonable amount of time.

[LalaRu]

When unpleasant people kicks me from a duty, they are making me a favor, because I will not eat penalty to be able don't stay with them anymore.

[Malzian]

Honestly my opinion on the matter revolves around the following 3 points:

1) You are not implicitly required as a Healer to DPS in most content. Generally speaking, aside from end game Savage raids, healer DPS is not a requirement to clear content. DPS from a healer is nice, but most of the content isn't tuned to expect or require it in any form or fashion.

2) Being willing and able to DPS as a healer when you do not have the need to heal will typically make the content go faster. If you and your group are fine tacking on an extra few minutes to a dungeon run, that's fine, but most people try to get in and get out as quick as possible since that is more efficient for leveling and gearing.

3) If you're a good enough healer, no one should really even notice that you're swapping between healing and DPSing. Provided you know your role and skills, along with knowing the fights, your transitions between healing and DPS can become seamless enough that, unless someone is watching your bar like a hawk or really watching those DoTs, they should never know that you spent 10 seconds swapping to Cleric, cast a few damage spells and switched back.

In the end, 'You do you.' But you should expect that everyone's going to have their own opinion and some people will express that opinion more loudly than others.