Bad Mentors?

[Watachy]

Wait a minute. I didn't know you get a 2 seats mount as achievement from getting mentor status?

1000 mentor roulettes = 2 seats pegasus

EDIT: My bad it's actually 2000 runs as mentionned below

[Ghishlain]

This is just anecdotal, but I've yet to see any vitriol thrown my way over mentor status. I have seen occasional cranky/snobby/edgy players, but I don't let them get to me. Probably something I learned to deal with when I started leveling tank jobs for the first time when HW launched.

Now I don't go out of my way to offer unsolicited advice unless someone is clearly struggling with something I'm familiar with or unless someone asks, but I always say hi at the beginning, congratulate everyone and wish them a safe journey at the end, and maybe remark on close calls and good saves if I see them.

If someone gets cranky about it, I'll pipe down, but only for that run.

This is pretty much what I do too. If I see a new player bonus pop up in an instance I try to give one or two points about a particular boss fight when we get to the gate even if no one pipes up that they're new. Yeah, it might be someone leveling an Alt but I'm not really detracting from the run either and I'm not directing my advice to any particular player either. If it's quite clear all the players understand the fight mechanics completely just by how they play on the first boss, I'll probably not bother giving advice on the following bosses as it seems pretty clear to me they understand what they're doing.

I think the only real time where I've given unsolicited advice was in a Copperbell (normal) run I had where there was a sprout ACN with Topaz Carby out. It annoyed the DRK tank we had greatly but eventually Carby just died due to aggro and after noticing that the ACN didn't resummon a Carby after a while made note of that in party chat and made not to use Emerald instead of Topaz. After the next pull the ACN did indeed summon Emerald Carby into the fray and things went smoothly from there. I made my notes about specific bosses as we hit them up and reminded the ACN to resummon his Topaz Carby once he left as the Topaz Carby is great for solo play but not so much for party play due to having a dedicated tank most of the time. There was never a single word from this ACN but I ended up walking away with three commends that run so I'll take it that people appreciated the talk xD

[Canadane]

Being a mentor does not require being an expert.
Yeah just blasting you with cure 1 and not really looking to keep you alive isn't the best play but it's not something that technically disqualifies one from being a mentor. ...though it should.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Most people do not even try for the mount. They just want the crown symbol next to their name to feel special.

Edit: in fact, now that I think about it, a majority of other mentors that I've spoken to either aren't even aware it exists, and again, a majority of the ones who do know of it aren't that motivated to work for it. It is a lot of time put in for Astrope.

Shouldn't have been a crown...

To go with the sprout icon, it should have been a watering can.

[bswpayton]

What mechanism do we have in place to deal with mentors who are bad? Too many people treat it like an achievement (get it and forget it), rather than an in-game duty that has responsibilities and takes some of their time.

aww another thing about mentors, I mean its so many factors that go into this the icon never really leaves you, what I mean by that is for instance Im a mentor but its still alot of content I havent even done yet. As it stands now mentors help the players in the novice network for novice related content, like I mention in another thread the only mentor status that should matter in pve is pve mentor.

Otherwise just because you are displaying the crown doesnt mean that you are an expert at everything pve, I just did the alex 1 to 12 normal yes Im a mentor but Ive also never even done this content, and I also dont have a sword by my crown. So if I fail at this or any other thing ive never done then shouldn't be faulted cause Id be just as new as the next person, and also if someone has multiple jobs then they may still be learning each and everyone of them. Its alot that goes into it than just oh mentors are awful the only mentor that should be great at pve is a pve mentor and thats it.

[CherryCola]

1000 mentor roulettes = 2 seats pegasus

Pretty sure it's 2000, not 1000. 1000 just nets you the Dragon Monocles.

[bounddreamer]

You may as well relabel the thread "bad players." I've seen more players who won't take good advice than I have bad mentors who were responsible for party wipes.

At that point after the second wipe I'd have voted to dismiss the mentor. Who knows what was going on with them, but obviously they shouldn't have queued for a dungeon.

[Azper]

You may as well relabel the thread "bad players." I've seen more players who won't take good advice than I have bad mentors who were responsible for party wipes.

I'll have to second this statement.

[Leep]

To be fair I never explain fights because I feel that being surprised and uninformed makes the dungeon more memorable. That being said, I stick around and help if need be but I'm there to help, not hold their hands. Sorry that the healer had a bad rotation, that seems to be a persistent thing for some players regardless of experience or gear.

[Bixillarla]

1000 mentor roulettes = 2 seats pegasus

It is 2000 roulettes for the mount. 1000 you get the dragon monocle.